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What if the next game was on the Wii system? It could work with the button configuration and the joy stick. Open the file with paint to edit ect.
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The PS3 can do it because of linux. you could probably hack your Wii put linux. Pretty simple process if your up to it.
05-08-2007 at 03:32 AM
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I want a DROD game on either the DS or the GBA. Except the screen wouldn't work for that because it's too small... but maybe a new game, developed by the DROD team, would be nice. I just want a game that's like DROD that I can carry around with me.
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Something like DROD for Mobiles?

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God, its always Wii this and Wii that.

Why must Everyone want everything on the Frigging Wii!

NO.

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Because of the other options, 1 console is riiiidge raaaaceeer, and the other is developers developers developers developers developers developers?
05-08-2007 at 11:28 AM
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Regardless of peoples feelings over the Wii, I fail to see the point of having DROD on any of home consoles.
05-08-2007 at 11:47 AM
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Wait, wait, dude. DROD DROD Revolution!
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Tombot wrote:
God, its always Wii this and Wii that.

Why must Everyone want everything on the Frigging Wii!

NO.

Well we could put the newest DROD on the Wii. I'm not saying we should always trust the Wii. Maybe DROD KDD on gameboy/psp, DROD JTRH on DS/psp and TCB and the new DROD on Wii.

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I don't think the question of whether there's a reason to put DROD in a wii is really important right now. There are two more important questions:

A - Is there anyone who has the knowledge and time to actually port DROD to a wii (my guess - no).

B - Is there any reason not to port DROD to a wii (say, having to pay licensing fees to Nintendo)?

Assuming the answer to A is "yes" and the answer to B is "no", then the question of whether it'd actually be a good idea to do so becomes relevant.

To put it another way: saying "someone should port DROD for a wii" is a waste of time, as is debating it. The correct way to phrase this request is either "I can port DROD to a wii, should I?" or "I am willing to pay to hire someone to port DROD to a wii, should I?"

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Good point. Erik should make a donation button like lots of other forums do to raise the money for the license fee and to make DROD for Wii. Pretty sure people would do it because their probably already waiting for DROD 4 to release.
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Well the people with psp's would be able to get DROD on there psp. We wouldn't really need a DS or gameboy then.
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No.

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roach strangler wrote:
Good point. Erik should make a donation button like lots of other forums do to raise the money for the license fee and to make DROD for Wii.
I agree wholeheartedly. Although I don't think a donation button is necessary. Because, at the moment, you are the only one willing to donate.

Roach strangler, if you are really serious, then just donate $100000 (US dollars) for the licence in advance. And agree on buying the first 10000 copies for $49.95 a piece within 3 weeks.

Note that I think roach strangler is very serious, so just send me the money. Just email me with the details and we will arrange something.

PS. I am not part of Caravel, so you still need to pay Caravel seperately for a licence.

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consoles only want games that will sell a lot. so they price their dev kits through the roof.

drod sales do not warrant the expense of console ports.


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I've considered how likely it would be to get DROD as an Xbox Live Arcade release, so I've thought about this.

There are significant hurdles to a Wii version:

* Nintendo are currently not giving development kits to indy developers.
* There is as of yet no digital distribution path for new games for the Wii. Publishers won't touch DROD.

There are also problems with a console version in general:
* Who will develop it? Console programming is a tricky beast, and much of the DROD codebase may have to be scrapped.
* While the interface on the surface seems suitable for porting, DROD is designed for discrete movements, which are hard to implement well on analog systems. For instance, with a joystick, how do you move one square without breaking the ability to move many? Where is the line between 'orthogonal' and 'diagonal' on a joystick? If you use the D-pad, how do you do diagonals easily? (The DS suggests an easy, copout solution, in putting buttons on the touchscreen.)
* Can the console handle the requisite resolution for the current DROD engine? (Remember that DROD runs natively at a higher resolution than one normally sees on televisions, which means the art will also have to be redone.)
* Where do you start the story? What elements need to be introduced?
* Is there an audience on consoles for contemplative puzzle games like DROD that aren't already on PCs? (This is the big one; 'is it worth it?')

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Mattcrampy wrote:
(The DS suggests an easy, copout solution, in putting buttons on the touchscreen.)
Heh... Tahnan's DROD DROD Revolution comes to mind...

Talk about giving Beethro a workout... :D

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It would work well on a PSP for its own reasons and possibly the DS but thats about it. :?

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Nonsense :). All you need is one stick (analog or digital doesn't really matter, though this probably makes more sense for an analog one) and a couple buttons. Point the direction you want to move with the stick, then push one of the buttons to make a move in that direction. If the stick is centered, pushing the move button will do a waiting move in stead. Two other buttons turn the sword, another one switch clones (or if buttons are scarce, point stick + push other button could be used for turning/switching/etc). Repeat could be added to the buttons as necessary, similar to how keyboard repeat works.


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I mean for realistic sales purposes.

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Nonsense :). All you need is one stick (analog or digital doesn't really matter, though this probably makes more sense for an analog one) and a couple buttons. Point the direction you want to move with the stick, then push one of the buttons to make a move in that direction. If the stick is centered, pushing the move button will do a waiting move in stead. Two other buttons turn the sword, another one switch clones (or if buttons are scarce, point stick + push other button could be used for turning/switching/etc). Repeat could be added to the buttons as necessary, similar to how keyboard repeat works.

Seems a bit unwieldy to have to press two buttons to make a move.

(I can see, for a Wii version, having a variation on mouse controls - you point at the square you want to move to, and the game comes up with a path it would take. You could preserve one press = one move, and counteract one's hands wobbling, by having players press a button to take one step along that path, but that'd probably be accused of being unwieldy as well.)

There's still the chief problem that DROD is rather moulded to fit the PC (as it existed back in 1995) and thus it's hard to come up with an elegant interface without changing some of the rules of the game.

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I'll say it. I'd play a game done in the DRODer! style on the Wii. Sure, it'd be far, far, far from the same, but it would be much more adaptable to the controls. It might be interesting to see DROD-like puzzles created sans-grid.

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Right now I play DROD on a ps3 controler. I've gotten used to it.
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Drod was a PC game. Drod is a PC game. Drod will be a PC game.

I don't see a point why there should be a console Drod. It would just be Drod with worse grafics, worse playing controls, worse editor controls, less options.....
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MeckMeck GRE wrote:
Drod was a MAC and PC game. Drod is a MAC and PC game. Drod will be a MAC and PC game.

I don't see a point why there should be a console Drod. It would just be Drod with worse grafics, worse playing controls, worse editor controls, less options.....

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Linux is an OS for the PC.
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Jason wrote:
MeckMeck GRE wrote:
Drod was a MAC and PC game. Drod is a MAC and PC game. Drod will be a MAC and PC game.

I don't see a point why there should be a console Drod. It would just be Drod with worse grafics, worse playing controls, worse editor controls, less options.....

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Dex Stewart wrote:
Linux is an OS for the PC.
Also, Macs are just yet another kind of PC nowadays.

They can run Windows, after all... :D

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And Linux.
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