Dragon Fogel
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Okay. I can handle the right side no problem - stab the left tar, stab the right tar to let the roach out, move order results in all four plates being pressed at once. I can also get the left side plates held down at the same time.

But, in that process I get the golem and gel babies stuck on the walls. So I assume I have to do something else on the left side.

I only have two ideas and neither seems very workable. Either I kill the golem on the plate north of the west tar blob, which the layout is not at all conducive to, or I cut the blob and somehow get four babies on the west side of the wall.

It's entirely possible I'm overlooking something, I seem to do that a lot in this hold.

disoriented
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You can kill one of the gel babies right away. Then I killed the golem at
This allows you to keep the tar babies on the right side still while you strand a tar baby on enabling you to go back to the right side and kill the last gel baby.
Even after following the proper steps, the briar and movement order are extremely fiddly in this room -- you may still end up with the final roach not getting killed by the briar unless you make exactly the right move sequence.

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Dragon Fogel
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disoriented wrote:
This allows you to keep the tar babies on the right side still while you strand a tar baby on

Click here to view the secret text

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I need more details here, can't get the stranding to work.

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Keep the tar on the left side intact.
Attached is a screenshot if you need it.


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My problem is not visualizing it, my problem is executing it.

More specifically, if I try to take a baby with me to the south, I can't get past the blob without either killing the baby, dying, or . If I try going north, I can't lead it past the wall with me. Unless I keep two babies alive, but then one kills me when I go back around to the south.

...and while making that edit, I realized it.

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[Last edited by Dragon Fogel at 01-13-2025 12:40 AM]

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For some reason, both testers and now players are finding this alternative solution, which seems harder to me. I tried to prevent it during testing but in the end there was always a way to do it, so I decided to leave it since it is not trivial.

In the intended solution (which is exploited by the current most optimized demo) the golem must be killed at


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