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So...

I started making a hold while watching Nature on PBS, specifically an episode about Ospreys, hence the name. I eventually worked my way around to the name making some semblance of sense, though.

This is a one-level hold, ~11 rooms, with a mild theming of seeding beacons and closing doors in the player's face. Lots of narrow corridors and a very low population of monsters. No scripting*, until/unless I add any challenges.

Hoping for a little testing to see if these puzzles are as clever as I'd hoped, or if they are, in fact, broken. I think checkpoints should be ok, but let me know of any issues.

Thanks!

*--EDIT: I forgot, there are a few build marker commands in one room!

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05-14-2024 at 04:18 AM
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It's a clever hold overall, and the puzzles certainly don't mess around,

But 1N, a room without any seeding beacons in it, seems just plain old impossible to solve regardless of what pressure plate you step on first, as the hordes will swarm you regardless of what direction you start in and which plate you step on first.

What is the intended solution?

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Thanks for taking a look azb. I'd appreciate seeing some demos from the rooms you have solved. For 1N, here's an attempt at some progressive hints:

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Having the solution be a "look and guess the hidden object" is usually not a well recieved puzzle mechanic in the DROD community, because the puzzles are supposed to be about how cleverly you can solve them by deduction and not about how much you can stare at the screen and blindly guess where a hidden object is, but I suppose it's not that bad an offender because it's very quick after you discover the hidden object.

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I'd argue that there are no hidden objects here.
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First of all, I did not know about the osprey, it's a beautiful bird!
Second, I really expected a fegundo themed hold based on the title :P

Anyways, these are terrific puzzles, I loved all of them except for two rooms. Perfect difficulty for me, and amazing gameplay. I think I found some US, so here's some comments and demos.

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PS: it's hard to keep up testing your hold, you are a building machine! Together with Blockerture Science Laboratories, these are my favourite puzzles of yours.

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Sorry--I'm trying to get old things published, but once I was happy with this I thought it best to go ahead and put it out there.

Anyway, thanks for taking a look! Here are a few responses:

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UPDATE: Various leak fix attempts!

EDIT/UPDATE AGAIN: Further tweak to 1S which I'm pretty sure fully patches its leaks.

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1S: is this intended?

1S1E: I like this room. But I did not understand your reply, what is the intended solution here? Is it the one I did now?

1W and 1S2E: I managed to make progress thanks to your hints, but I still cannot solve these rooms.

1N2W: the first passage solution seems the same as my previous one. Is this intended?
For the second solution, well, I forgot about your hint after I read it, but luckily I knew about this trick, otherwise it would have been a really tough room (it still is!). Also, I learned (or re-learned, don't recall if TSS has this interaction) that taking a potion while in a time token, it cancels the time token itself. I smell puzzle potential.

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All the new demos look intended now, hooray!

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