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Author Name:Jimmythins
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Hold Name:The Zombie Problem
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04-15-2006 at 10:55 AM
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I like the concept, but you really need to learn how to stop scripts from repeating when you re-enter rooms (hint - use the "end" script command)

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04-15-2006 at 06:40 PM
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I don't seem to be able to find a second secret room on level 1.
04-15-2006 at 07:17 PM
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I can confirm that all the secret rooms in this hold are findable. Hints for the level 1 secrets:

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04-15-2006 at 07:20 PM
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Okay, I completed this hold (with every single score a 1st place or a 1st place tie. Woohoo!). Fun little themed hold. It's an example how an easy hold can be made fun by adding a storyline and scripting, even though the scripting could use a bit more polishing.

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04-15-2006 at 07:23 PM
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eytanz wrote:
I can confirm that all the secret rooms in this hold are findable. Hints for the level 1 secrets:

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I wouldn't say "tricky", really. I would say "Run around aimlessly until you happen to trigger the arbitrary scripting which causes the orb to open the door." Personally, I have not come across the arbitrary scripting.

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04-15-2006 at 07:49 PM
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It's not arbitrary. There's a clear hint of what you must do, and when you must do it.

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04-15-2006 at 07:52 PM
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I still don't think it's arbitrary. Crude, yes, and the execution is sloppy. But the second step, while not clearly connected to the first, is something that you would probably do sooner or later anyway.

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04-15-2006 at 08:12 PM
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Well it's apparantly not something that I would try sooner or later. I have tried killing the slayer (at almost every point on its path), not killing the slayer, stopping the slayer with my sword at various points, killing all the other NPCs, not killing any of the NPCs, stopping the unkillable NPC from leaving, stepping on most every square in the room...

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04-15-2006 at 08:19 PM
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Ok, here it is:

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04-15-2006 at 08:23 PM
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Odd. I killed the slayer first time through but never saw the door open. I never even saw the lightning to the door. I suppose it's possible I was trying to kick the cat, or watching my lava lamp, at the time and was distracted.
04-15-2006 at 10:15 PM
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Nice job with the storyline.

I do hope you'll consider having some testing other than yourself in the future. I'd say you did a good job of not making major misstakes on your first 2 holds, but you never know when you'll miss something. Also, testers can often give recommendations.
04-15-2006 at 11:44 PM
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Best line:
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I did give a lower score because
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But it was funny.

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04-16-2006 at 12:07 AM
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Apart from the scripting, I think you're a natural born architect... So please keep it up! :)

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04-17-2006 at 02:23 PM
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Jimmythins wrote:
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Yes, but why not?

I agree that the hold wasn't bad, though proofreading the text (scripting and scrolls) would have helped immensely. (Also: "greckle", not "dollar".)
04-20-2006 at 12:46 AM
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I think the hold story is meant to occur in an arbitrary zombie-related setting, not the Eighth, so I wasn't bothered by the use of dollars.

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04-20-2006 at 12:56 AM
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Ah, well, probably so. Calling the protagonist "Beethro" threw me, I guess.
04-20-2006 at 02:57 AM
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I liked it.
04-28-2006 at 06:58 PM
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A nice hold, sort of an afternoon snack. I enjoyed playing it, although I wonder about this poor guy 'Marc'...the bad guy in two different holds. What did he ever do to you?

All in all I give it a 7 with 3 brains of difficulty.

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06-12-2006 at 06:52 PM
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jbluestein wrote:
I wonder about this poor guy 'Marc'...the bad guy in two different holds. What did he ever do to you?
Here's a small hint: http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=10008&page=0#103569

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06-12-2006 at 08:19 PM
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Back At The Royal Palace: 2 East should be marked Unhighscoreable, I took care of the rest of the 1 move rooms, but this one has master walls so the spider rejects demos of it but doesn't mark it.

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10-10-2006 at 07:21 AM
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I actually had quite a bit of fun with this one. The concept was entertaining and it did feel like something of a zombie attack. There were a couple of bugs with the scripting (one of the early rooms, if you kill the roaches and leave the way you came in makes it so you can't exit the room the other way). This meant I had to restore a few times but it wasn't terrible.

One thing I noticed that was appreciated was the checkpoints. They were in good locations and there were a sufficient number of them. So well done and thanks!

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Post-mastered!

Not much to say here except that this hold has a great many easy puzzles, a few irritatingly twisty secret paths, and bad scripting. I like easy puzzles, the only problem with this bad scripting is that it lacks "End" statements, and secret paths are always terrible. Still, in the end, The Zombie Problem came out to be a pretty enjoyable hold.

7 fun
3 brains
50/100 recommendation rating.

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