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I feel I am missing something very, very obvious.



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11-16-2005 at 04:17 PM
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There are a lot of variations for doing things in this room.
Here are some hints.

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If you're still stuck, tell me where.

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11-16-2005 at 04:47 PM
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Again, I should just be more patient. I was playing with both of these ideas and simply didn't play them out far enough. Thanks.
11-16-2005 at 07:28 PM
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Thanks in advance :thumbsup

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11-16-2005 at 11:38 PM
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Here are some positions you should reach:

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11-16-2005 at 11:51 PM
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Thanks. :thumbsup
up to the nest... room :)

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11-17-2005 at 12:47 AM
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I can't figure out how to get enough moves in to get two babies into the upper area, without not killing the middle snake...

I can't kill snake 1 while getting baby 2 into the upper area to kill the last 2 snakes....


And of course, I just got it. O_o

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12-17-2005 at 10:52 PM
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I've been coming back to this room for days, and I'm still stuck right up front.
A very long time ago, larrymurk wrote:
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and
A little later, larrymurk wrote further:
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I assume the first tarbaby is supposed to follow me around to both the second and third snakes, but I can't actually make it do so properly.

I've made a demo of where I've gotten to. (I've also tried following the second snake around its loop twice, with no improvement.) Hints, either opaque or clear, are most welcome.

Thanks -
04-16-2006 at 02:38 AM
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You need to head out and kill the tarbaby before you run back. If you do, you should make it with 1 move to spare. The tarbaby used to kill the second snake is the one you take with you.
04-16-2006 at 03:14 AM
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coppro wrote:
You need to head out and kill the tarbaby before you run back. If you do, you should make it with 1 move to spare. The tarbaby used to kill the second snake is the one you take with you.
Hmmm. I'm afraid I don't understand what you just wrote. I've tried this room killing the first tarbaby straight away, which I think is equivalent to what you're suggesting. This doesn't allow me to kill the second snake.

In fact, I can't even kill the second snake under any circumstances. Either, or both (depending on how I do it) of the first two tarbabies just slide through and take only one segment off. The closest I can come to killing that one is documented by my earlier demo . . . ie suicide.

My apologies for not getting the idea -
04-16-2006 at 02:34 PM
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If I read your posts correctly, you are having trouble killing snakes 2 and 3.
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04-18-2006 at 02:42 PM
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File: P Perfect 7 2S failure 2.demo (1.7 KB)
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This room is so doggone frustrating I'm ready to, um . . . I don't know, frown sternly, or burst into tears, or wander around muttering, or something . . .

I'm doing what, to me, is exactly what previous hints are suggesting. I end up in the predicament documented by the attached demo.
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Please, in small words, let me know what's wrong with my approach through this 10% of the room.

Thanks -

[Last edited by key-smiter at 04-19-2006 07:59 AM : Trying demo upload again]
04-19-2006 at 12:52 AM
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The attempt to stay alive through Serpent 2's course is misguided. Run like the wind to kill number 1 and make it back in time.
04-19-2006 at 12:53 AM
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English is my first language, but I'm not getting the.

I've uploaded a demo of what I think you're suggesting I am to do. This does start the bomb process, something I assume is bad.

Unless I'm instead supposed to kill the first liberated tarbaby . . . nah. Then there's no way to kill the second snake.

I'm giving myself just a few more shots. Sooner or later I'll be perceptive enough to figure out what I'm being told.

Thanks -


04-19-2006 at 01:10 AM
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If you still haven't solved this and noone else has posted a demo, I will tomorrow late afternoon when I'm at my computer w/ the demo.

PS. I don't see any demos attached to your posts key-smiter.

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04-19-2006 at 01:16 AM
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File: P Perfect 7 2S a really ridiculous failure.demo (1.8 KB)
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larrymurk wrote:


PS. I don't see any demos attached to your posts key-smiter.
Here goes again . . .

[Last edited by key-smiter at 04-19-2006 01:25 AM : Looks like it worked this time]
04-19-2006 at 01:24 AM
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Once you get to the right, move north until snake 1 dies. Then head south and go as far as you can without setting off the bomb.
04-19-2006 at 01:34 AM
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Key-smiter

Maybe there are multiple ways to do this but what I did was:

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[Last edited by talund at 04-19-2006 02:56 PM : corrected a misstatement.]
04-19-2006 at 02:52 PM
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talund wrote, among other things:
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Thanks. I coulda sworn I tried this already, but I'll give it a shot when I get home again . . .

Kinda funny. This hold, which should be turning me into the karmic reincarnation of an Einstein, appears in my case to be having the opposite effect. I suspect I'll be lucky to get out the far end with a functioning cerebrum.
04-19-2006 at 03:48 PM
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I thoroughly enjoyed this hold because of all the thinking it entailed. I had no shame when it came to consulting the H&S board or asking for help.
04-19-2006 at 04:44 PM
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My goodness. Finally made it through this first gauntlet . . . all three snakes. So OK, it took me a week. . . on to the next impossible task.
EDIT: Well, that didn't take long.
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Help, please. Hints, sardonic rejoinders, suggestions for new hobbies, or step-by-step instructions are all welcome. This room is really getting me down.

Thanks.

[Last edited by key-smiter at 04-20-2006 01:32 AM : stuck again.]
04-20-2006 at 12:54 AM
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IIRC, you should hit the orb when the snake is in the bottom-right corner and from the top-left square around the orb.
04-20-2006 at 01:46 AM
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coppro wrote:
IIRC, you should hit the orb when the snake is in the bottom-right corner and from the top-left square around the orb.
Well, I'm back. Sorry to be such an ignoramus. If I follow the hint as given - slightly better than anything I could do on my own, thanks - I end up with a live snake in the central 3 x 3 square. If I time the orb activation with that snake's cycle, I end up just like in the demo. . . . one move short.

The hint was clear. What am I doing wrong this time? Thanks -
04-22-2006 at 12:23 AM
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File corrupted. Which snake you having trouble with?
04-22-2006 at 12:35 AM
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Not a snake this time, a tarbaby. I have at least advanced about twenty squares since the last hint . . . hahahahahah! At this rate the game will be obsolete before I finish this room.
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If my wording is incomprehensible, let me know and I can try uploading the demo again.
04-22-2006 at 01:28 AM
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Hows about this.
04-22-2006 at 01:40 AM
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Thanks. Something about this room is making much more of a troublesome dolt than than normal.

If I can't complete the room now, I'll need to uninstall DROD, and probably for good measure uninstall the computer into Thursday's trash stream.
04-22-2006 at 04:45 PM
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Wow. Finally done with this room. There were several other tricky things even beyond my multiple sticking points . . . thanks again for the demo.

EDIT - tried to transfer some mod points, but something about my system (Windows firewall? who knows.) is preventing this. I'll keep trying -

[Last edited by key-smiter at 04-23-2006 12:34 AM]
04-23-2006 at 12:09 AM
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sorry I'm lost here.

It appears that what people are saying, is that somehow you have to get the FIRST tar baby (from the SW corner) alive after killing the first snake, and bring it through somehow into the place where the SECOND snake lives.

How precisely do you do this?

I cannot at any stage move, from the NW corner, to a position that is east of the SW tarbaby, or south of it. I cannot get to the corridor at (10,22) and actually get there before the first tar baby.
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Not at computer atm, but should be something like this...

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