Dragon Fogel
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I was glancing through old bug threads and noticed this post I made: http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=40853&page=0#404276

I decided to look into it a bit more. Here's what I found.

-If a stalwart or soldier with a dagger is on a force arrow, and there is a monster directly behind him, (that is, in a position where the stalwart's movement is blocked by the force arrow) he will stab the monster.
-However, if there is a bomb behind the monster, the stalwart will not stab it.
-But there's more! If a guard is in the same situation, with Beethro directly behind him, the guard will not stab at all, whether there's a bomb there or not. Instead he just stays in place.

This all holds in both 5.1 and the latest 5.1.1 candidate.

I thought it was worth clearing up if any of this should be changed.

Personally, I think stalwarts and guards should behave the same way in this situation. As for the specifics, I believe it makes the most sense for both to attack behind them when it's clearly "safe", but I could go either way on whether they should do the same if bombs are involved.

Dragon Fogel
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Looked at another old thread about weapon behavior, and noticed this:

- "Stalwart with a spear on monster will move into the monster to kill, even if bomb is one tile further because it won't be stabbed"

This feels like a comparable situation. Guards work the same way here - they will stab Beethro with a spear if there's a bomb on the tile past him.

mrimer
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hyperme has submitted a fix for the next build:

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Dragon Fogel
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Confirmed:
-Guards with daggers on force arrows will stab against the direction of the arrow. They will still do this if there is a bomb, keg, slayer, or guard in the direction of the stab.

-Stalwarts and soldiers will stab against the direction of the arrow, even if there is a player, double (including timeclones), Halph, stalwart, soldier, bomb, or keg in that direction.