hyperme
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If you create a Briar Root or Briar Growth build marker, the root can be built even if the space is occupied by a player or monster. The root will also grow once built, leaving them trapped.

Presumably, Briar, like walls or mirrors, shouldn't be built under players or monsters.

Edit: It appears that is can also be built on all types walls as well. Presumably there isn't any restriction on where briar can be built.

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[Last edited by hyperme at 07-30-2016 02:39 PM]

superluminal
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Here's a list of all the elements that the engine won't let be built under the player:
As you can see, the list is a little... thin. Every other element can be build beneath the player and monsters without any problems (no beeping or crashing).

If we use the "Build" command instead of "Build marker", the list of elements includes Pit, Image pit, and Water. Again, there doesn't seem anything buggy with this behavior, it just looks weird.

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superluminal wrote: If we use the "Build" command instead of "Build marker", the list of elements includes Pit, Image pit, and Water. Again, there doesn't seem anything buggy with this behavior, it just looks weird.

What looks weird, exactly? I've tested every combination of (build, build marker) (pit, water) under (player, roach) and in every case, it immediately falls and dies as you'd expect. Is there some combination that doesn't do this?

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superluminal
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Nuntar wrote:
What looks weird, exactly? I've tested every combination of (build, build marker) (pit, water) under (player, roach) and in every case, it immediately falls and dies as you'd expect. Is there some combination that doesn't do this?

The player (and monsters) won't drop and die if the pit is built on the zeroth turn. This is in version 6505. But other elements can be built on the player on any turn.

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Yeah. The zeroth turn has to be an exception, so that you don't get trapped in an endless cycle of dying, restarting and immediately dying again.

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I've checked and this seems to be fixed in 5.1.1.alpha.2020-09-24 on windows 10. The briar will not appear if it's going to be placed under the player.