disoriented
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I could use a tip for this challenge.

Edit: Saw noma's demo.

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noma
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Must be my original from way back. Haven't got there yet on 5.0. I was challenge psychic.

JamesBond007
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Is this challenge possible to complete? Trapping the snake before the third tar growth appears to be impossible.

Nuntar
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http://forum.caravelgames.com/challenges.php

Eighteen solvers so far.

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Dragon Fogel
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This is my next to last challenge, and I don't have a CaravelNet subscription right now so I can't check the demos up there. I generally prefer hints to demos in any case.

So any particular advice on this?

(Not looking forward to my last challenge, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.)

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Are you stuck on the snake part or the queens part? The snake part is mostly good timing. If you're in line with a snake's head, it will move directly towards you if it can, otherwise directly away. You can use this to keep it away from the tar during the first spawn, then bring it towards the tar so that its head is in the middle of the eastern side when the second spawn happens.

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Dragon Fogel
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It's the queens, mainly. I always use the tar to keep them away from the yellow walls and I don't have a clue how I'm supposed to time things with limited tar growth.

I can handle mucking around with a snake until it dies, but the queens just confuse me here.

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When you kill the tar mother, the queens will naturally be in the SE of their enclosure. So, you need to drive them west, then strike the orb when they are in between the doors. What goes wrong when you do this, and how can it be prevented?


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Dragon Fogel
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Thanks! Only one challenge left now.

It may not surprise anyone to hear that said challenge is the one for 25th Level 2S.

Camwoodstock
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Anybody got a demo? I can understand how the serpent part works, that's all in timing. The roach queens, though... not so much.

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Nuntar
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Dealing with the queens is also all in the timing.


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Camwoodstock
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Nuntar wrote:
Dealing with the queens is also all in the timing.

Click here to view the secret text

×The queens are all in the SE corner. When they spawn, for the five turns until the eggs hatch, none of the queens can move. Use these turns to get east of all of them so they move west together. Then strike the orb when they are in between the doors.

Uhh... Combined with the timing for the serpent? Can you give me a demo? Or at least the steps I need to make from the entrance?

Because I'm getting seriously confused at this point and have had absolutely no luck whatsoever in combining the serpent timing with the queen timing.

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Xindaris
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I don't know why people are downvoting the above post, it's just an expression of confusion. Maybe this will help:



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Camwoodstock
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Xindaris wrote:
I don't know why people are downvoting the above post, it's just an expression of confusion. Maybe this will help:

Click here to view the secret text

×You don't have to combine the two; just kill the serpent and tar mother in the specified turn limit. Once you've done that you can place all 3 queens in between the doors where you can reach them just by chasing them west and hitting the orb at the right time.

1) Thank you for saying that. I was worried the downvotes were because I was somehow TOO inept at the game. I mean, I do post here a lot, granted, but I mostly play for fun.
2) Thank you so much for the advice! I thought I had to sync it up perfectly with roach spawns...

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KainXVIII
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File: KDD20 Sixteenth Level 2E Challenge completed.demo (7 KB)
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How to kill snake without spawning baby tar monster and still be in time for the challenge?
upd - yay, completed!

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