Ezlo
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With all these new toys, I figured I'd go back to one of my favorite elements that didn't appear nearly enough in TSS and how it interacts with the new things we've got, especially the new weapons.

Also, the only hold to my name is a terrible one that my sister made and I want to have at least one decent hold under my belt to erase the shame.

It's going to be about 5-7 levels long, aiming for medium difficulty.

I don't have much right now, just the start of the storyline and two puzzles in the first level. I'm the type of person though who if I don't show what I have now I'm never going to continue it.

ANYWAYS. Play and tell me what you like.

EDIT: v4 uploaded. More tweaks to PCtS.

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There are a few grammar/punctuation edits to be made, but it's easiest to leave that until last and edit all the hold text at once.

Very nice mini-map art.

VHP 2N: There is no way to progress from here.

PCtS Ent: What's the point in scripting to give the player the Staff, when there is a staff weapon token he is forced to cross? Also, because there are two tokens, the player can go round in a loop and regain the sword, making it easy to clear the room without the Slayer's help.

PCtS 1E: The Construct doesn't do anything and you can just leave him to get killed. The staff makes this room trivial -- it would be more interesting if you had the sword!

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Ezlo
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Ugh. I forgot that it's the dagger that doesn't drop trapdoors, not the staff. That room will have to be scrapped.

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I wouldn't give up on 1E entirely. If you could find a way to force the player not to drop any(some) trapdoors, it could be a good room!

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Alright, seven puzzles done in the first level and all those problems should be fixed. Having some issues scripting a challenge in PctS 2n1w if anyone has some pointers. Also haven't finished the cutscene, plot, and letting the slayer out.

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Ezlo wrote:
Alright, seven puzzles done in the first level and all those problems should be fixed. Having some issues scripting a challenge in PctS 2n1w if anyone has some pointers.

I would do it like this. Character 1:

  Wait while entity type Water skipper nest,19,13,19,13
  Set var "ChallengeFail" = 1

Character 2:

  Wait for event Bomb exploded
  If ... 
        Wait until var "ChallengeFail" = 0
     Wait for clean room 
     Challenge completed Nested
  Else 
     Wait for clean room 
  If End 
  End 

Note that this will cause ChallengeFail to be set to 1 if the player enters the room after it's been cleared. That's not a problem -- just make every room containing a challenge set ChallengeFail to 0 at the start of the room.

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I'm afraid that these rooms seem plagued by unintended solutions. 1E still doesn't need the Construct. With the staff, it's easy to get the gentryii stuck so you can hit the conquer token. 1N1E - I didn't need the power tokens or the mirrors. 2N1E - just wait 37 turns and it clears itself. 1W - just tap the seeding beacon and leave.

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In 1N1W, your first character will, when the player steps on the platform, set ChallengeFail to 1 and then End. The player can then leave the room, go to another room with a challenge to have ChallengeFail restored to 0, then come back here and solve it any old how. There's no problem in using a single ChallengeFail variable for all rooms containing challenges, but you have to take out that "End".

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1E, I don't see how you can get to the conquer token without dropping the trapdoor, which you need the staff to do now that the player role is a guard. Is the scripting not working? I thought a global script would fix that.

1N1E Fixed not needing a mirror.

2N1E Fixed the waiting unintended solution, but I can see at least one more unintended solution, might make it a challenge. Can you do it without pressing the pressure plate?

1W Fixed, can't believe I'm that dumb.

Scripting should be better now too, but I have another question, I'm working on a pair of "stomping boots" for the player, so that the guard can drop trapdoors. What I want is that when the player is on a trapdoor and presses the special command button, one turn later the trapdoor drops. I can get scripting to recognize the special command and to drop a trapdoor, but I can't figure out how to store variables about where the player is so I can have it be only where the player was standing a turn before. Help?

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Ezlo wrote:
1E, I don't see how you can get to the conquer token without dropping the trapdoor, which you need the staff to do now that the player role is a guard. Is the scripting not working? I thought a global script would fix that.

Sorry, I was just testing in the editor, so I missed that script

Scripting should be better now too, but I have another question, I'm working on a pair of "stomping boots" for the player, so that the guard can drop trapdoors. What I want is that when the player is on a trapdoor and presses the special command button, one turn later the trapdoor drops. I can get scripting to recognize the special command and to drop a trapdoor, but I can't figure out how to store variables about where the player is so I can have it be only where the player was standing a turn before. Help?

This should do that:

Label loop
  Wait for player to input Special Command
  Set var "OldX" = _X
  Set var "OldY" = _Y
  Wait 1
  Set var "_MyScriptX" = OldX
  Set var "_MyScriptY" = OldY
  Destroy Trapdoor 0,0,0,0
  Set var "_MyScriptX" = -9999
  Set var "_MyScriptY" = -9999
  Go to loop

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Some comments on PCTS:

Ezlo
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Still can't seem to get variables to assign their value to other variables. How do you get the "Set var "_MyScriptX" = OldX
Set var "_MyScriptY" = OldY" lines to work?

1W: Power Token added.
1N1W: A remnant from testing, gone now.
2N1W: Thanks!
2N1E: Should be fixed now, debating making your version a secret room or something similar.
1N1E: Fixed I think.
1E: Thank you! It's the room I'm most proud of so far.

EDIT: New version accidentally made a room impossible. Now it's repossible.

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This formatting should work. Just type the name of the variable exactly into the box where normally there would be a number.

Set var "Var1" = Var2

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PCtS 2N1E needs a power token added somewhere in the outer passage to enable lighting the fuse, or the player will be stuck in the outer ring. Also, PCtS 1W is fairly trivial, since you can just light the fuse then beeline for the exit.

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PctS 1w, that is actually intentional.