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A few questions I had regarding the riddles side quest:

1. When using the eitur potion on Alviss, it eventually run out and he reverts to form. Is there a way to "transform" him again to ask more riddles or questions (seeing as I no longer have the eitur potion in my inventory)?

2. There doesn't seem to be anybody who knows the answer to the wizard's riddle about "that which is broken" - everyone I ask (even Alviss) doesn't know the answer. Am I missing something/someone? I'm up to chapter 3, and haven't woken up the Valkyrie yet.

Thanks!
12-30-2013 at 06:34 PM
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1. There's no way to restore him again. You did something wrong the first time. Hint: it has to do with him being an elf.
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2. There are 6 NPCs involved in this quest. Have you met all of them?
12-30-2013 at 06:40 PM
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You messed up with Alvis, he turned to stone because of daylight. The proper way to turn him back was
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Edit: ninja'd :)

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You messed up with Alvis, he turned to stone because of daylight. The proper way to turn him back was
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Edit: ninja'd :)


So did I apparently... what difference will it make in the game if Alvis gets to return home..? Will he then be connected to any quests, sell/trade items ?
12-30-2013 at 06:43 PM
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None I know of, but it's possible. Or he could just be there for flavour.
12-30-2013 at 06:47 PM
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Thanks - I thought the thing with Alviss might have been related to daylight but given that he didn't immediately scream "I'm MELTING" when I first saved him, I incorrectly dismissed that too quickly!

Re the NPCs, all I've found are:
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Am I far enough into the game for the sixth NPC (and if so, any hints on where he/she may be found)?
12-30-2013 at 06:56 PM
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Thanks - I thought the thing with Alviss might have been related to daylight but given that he didn't immediately scream "I'm MELTING" when I first saved him, I incorrectly dismissed that too quickly!

Re the NPCs, all I've found are:
Click here to view the secret text


Am I far enough into the game for the sixth NPC (and if so, any hints on where he/she may be found)?


There's a certain tricky device in Andvari's house in SAH that can help you with that. Of course, you'll have to get rid of Andvari first...
If you can't figure it out (and it's a truly evil one) -
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12-30-2013 at 07:09 PM
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Oh of course:
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I've found him, but he doesn't seem interested in answering my riddles...?
12-30-2013 at 07:36 PM
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Oh of course:
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I've found him, but he doesn't seem interested in answering my riddles...?

He does answer those he knows, and dismisses the ones he cannot answer by pretending they are of no interest to him. At least, that's how it was with me. Did you try asking him all the riddles that you know at this point?
12-30-2013 at 08:01 PM
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I think you may have run into a bug. I just checked the whole sequence and in my experience "which is broken" riddle is asked by Loki, not wizard, and answered by Alviss. Though maybe if you free him correctly, he'll give you an answer.

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12-30-2013 at 08:34 PM
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I think you may have run into a bug. I just checked the whole sequence and in my experience "which is broken" riddle is asked by Loki, not wizard, and answered by Alviss. Though maybe if you free him correctly, he'll give you an answer.

You are talking about Alviss when you say that, right? For a second there, I thought you meant "if you free Loki correctly" and I was like "Free Loki?! Won't that start Ragnarok, the very thing we're trying to prevent?". xD
Although, it would be awesome in a game like this if you could actually decide to give up on the world and unleash Ragnarok upon it. I absolutely loved Loki in this game, I was genuinely moved by him. :)

Anyway, back to topic: I started a new game so I could avoid the mistakes I made in my first attempt, and it turns out that the riddle sequence changes. Aurvandel asked me a different starting riddle, the other NPCs can't answer riddles they knew in my previous playthrough, and they also give me different riddles. So I guess the riddle quest is randomized. For you, the "What can be broken" is asked by Loki, but I've had Hervor ask me that one (twice, actually!).


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PicaLudica wrote: Although, it would be awesome in a game like this if you could actually decide to give up on the world and unleash Ragnarok upon it.

You can kinda do that.
At the avalanche screen jump/teleport over the chasm. You'll get a death screen saying you abandoned your quest and let Ragnarok happen.

Come to think of it, you can actually teleport to Loki's cliff and interact with his bounds. Maybe the sword could also break them? Might be worth checking out :D.
12-30-2013 at 09:11 PM
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Riddles are assigned randomly to characters; it's not a bug.
12-30-2013 at 09:14 PM
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PicaLudica wrote: Although, it would be awesome in a game like this if you could actually decide to give up on the world and unleash Ragnarok upon it.

You can kinda do that.
At the avalanche screen jump/teleport over the chasm. You'll get a death screen saying you abandoned your quest and let Ragnarok happen.

Come to think of it, you can actually teleport to Loki's cliff and interact with his bounds. Maybe the sword could also break them? Might be worth checking out :D.
I wouldn't stick around Loki for too long, if I were you. ;) I Blinked to him in order to collect a sample of that poison (just in case it would come in handy), and...
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Also, I've tried to break his bonds, but the game more or less says that nothing can break them. Maybe if you find the right weapon though? Or at maximum Disrupt with maximum Magic/Willpower? ^^;
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Is this sidequest class specific? I don't remember any riddles in my Warrior game... :?
12-31-2013 at 12:29 AM
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Is this sidequest class specific? I don't remember any riddles in my Warrior game... :?
Possible. This quest gives a spell to the sorceress, so and is started by Aurvandel, so maybe it's class-exclusive?

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Is this sidequest class specific? I don't remember any riddles in my Warrior game... :?


I'm also a warrior. Seems we have no riddles, dumb warrior we are.
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Ok I think it's a bug.

Both Aurvandel and Hervor are asking me the SAME question about "what can be broken" (which I'm pretty sure is a clock). Is there a way to ASK Hervor first?

I've checked and unfortunately the other NPCs have the same intellectual prowess as my heroine at solving this riddle... :(

I'll double check with Alviss at night time and confirm whether that changes things...

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If you don't get an answer from any of the NPCs, can you send me a saved game so I can have a look? (Email: fizzii_ish@yahoo.com)

Also try to go through all the other riddles you were given aside from this particular one and see if you can get the answers for those first.
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Ok confirmed that Alviss is still dumb as a rock at night time...

I'll shoot over the save file for you to look at in a bit...
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Ok...forget it... Apparently I also have the same mental prowess of a rock...

Fizzii - have tried your other suggestion, and it worked. I answered the guild master's question first, then asked mine in return.

(Now I need to find an in-game hole for my heroine to crawl into...)

P.S. oh and thanks - I'd have hurled my ice bolt across the room in frustration without this forum...!

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Cool, you should get there then :)
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Ok so where is Loki? I feel like I've gone everywhere I can and talked to everyone but I have barely gotten anywhere with this quest and I'm getting near what I think is the end. I have 5 riddle questions but only 2 answers. I'd rather like to have my reward for this onnee :-(
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