Nosdrah Circtrebla
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This is my first attempt at make a hold. Very easy. No Puzzles, just monsters killing. Have fun with it.

Please let me know what you think and if I should post it to the Holds Board.

Thanks

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[Last edited by Nosdrah Circtrebla at 01-30-2007 06:40 PM]

Kevin_P86
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It was going ok until Level 7. Major problems with level 7.

To anyone else who's playing: Just make sure you find the required room behind a secret wall coming out of the entrance before continuing.

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Tim
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I must say I find your idea of secret rooms being required, and required rooms behind secret rooms, quite interesting...

Although I doubt that's your intention... (although this is only a mnor thing)

Kevin_P86
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The Level 7 stairs end the hold.

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Nosdrah Circtrebla
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I found a couple of other problems. I hope there fixed. Please let me know.

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Nosdrah Circtrebla
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Opps, here the new hold.

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Kevin_P86
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Ok, well it's certainly all possible to complete which is good.

In general, required rooms behind secret walls should be avoided, and there are a few of them here. I would suggest either making them unrequired, or at least not putting them behind secret walls.

Level 7 has some serious backtracking issues - it is impossible to backtrack through just about every room. The fact that the room (less the now unrequired room coming out of the entrance, and the required room behind a secret wall which should really be made unrequired) is linear helps, but it is still better to be able to backtrack.

"Ninth" in "Ninth Level" has no "e".

As it is, the hold is not possible to master, since the secret room in Level 9 is not possible to complete. Either make that room not secret, or make it possible to complete.

Many rooms have black or red doors blocking their exits, often in addition to a green door. In case you were not aware, in most cases it is not necessary to clear all the tar or trapdoors to complete the room - you can simply exit from where you came in. For example, Level 2 : 1N (there are quite a few others as well).

Level 2 : 2N - it is not necessary to clear the tar (a very good thing, btw).

Level 5, regarding the rooms with the mimic potions intended the strike the orbs: It is possible on all of them to use the mimic to help you kill the wraithwings, and exit to the north.

Overall, this hold isn't too bad. Several of the rooms are really quite tedious, but most of them aren't excessive.

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Nosdrah Circtrebla
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Thank you for your input. I will start making the changes. The Secret Room in Level 9 and well in Level 1 are not required. They were just put there to discover. Level 7 seems to be my biggest problem. After all the changes have been made I will re-post the hold.

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Kevin_P86
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It doesn't matter if secret rooms are marked as required or not - if they're marked as secret, they need to be completed to master the hold.

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Nosdrah Circtrebla
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I did not know. I thought that the levels could be completed even if the Secret Rooms were not found. My Bad. I will make the change and repost the Hold. Thanks again.

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Kevin_P86
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The hold can be completed. It just cannot be mastered. When you master a hold, the master walls drop, and this is the point at which the hold has "really" been completed. Some people would be really quite unhappy with a hold that cannot be mastered.

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Nosdrah Circtrebla
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Once I had finished with the changes, do you feel that this is the type of hold that could go on the Holds board, or should I try and change it in some way first?

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Kevin_P86
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If it is conquerable and masterable, and you deal with the backtracking issues (ideally you should never be able to get to a point where you are stuck and are forced to restore), then it should have no trouble making it onto the holds board. It's really not the type of hold that everyone would like, but I think some would appreciate it.

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Nosdrah Circtrebla
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Thanks again for all you input and advice.

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