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This isn't meant as a real hold, just something to kill some time. I'd be very interested if anyone actually finishes it...

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07-22-2003 at 07:45 PM
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I can't complete the hold either - I don't think that Novence West is possible. But a bit of fun, all the same.

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07-22-2003 at 09:30 PM
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I did it!

I completed the hold - Novence West is possible - you need to look at it another way (literally) and use some really advanced techniques.

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07-22-2003 at 10:47 PM
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agaricus5 wrote:
I did it!

I completed the hold - Novence West is possible - you need to look at it another way (literally) and use some really advanced techniques.
I almost didn't believe you. :) I tried that room I don't know how many times in one sitting and never killed more than 50 roaches before being backed into a corner. Then I came back to this room after taking a little break and killed 97 roaches before dying on one attempt (it takes only one bad move to spoil a good streak). I knew I was on the right track and after a couple more tries I did it.

[Edited by Tscott on 07-23-2003 at 03:04 AM]

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07-23-2003 at 03:03 AM
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agaricus5 wrote:
I did it!
Man, I can't believe this. Somebody post a demo! Seriously, I have no idea how you guys are doing it.

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07-23-2003 at 04:14 AM
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As requested...

It's surely not the smoothest solve possible but it worked.

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07-23-2003 at 05:02 AM
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How do you watch this demo? I imported it and the demo list shows no demo still? Am I doing something wrong or is there some trick?
07-23-2003 at 05:35 AM
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Yeah...I had the same problem.

It doesn't show up on the demo list, but import it anyway. Then, you may have to quit the program, and go to the title screen. Wait for a bit, and it should start playing. After that, you can hit the demo button to watch it again. Kinda weird though...maybe a bug?

Anyway, after watching the demo, I saw that I was on the right track, just not quite enough. What an evil room.

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zex20913 wrote:
It doesn't show up on the demo list, but import it anyway. Then, you may have to quit the program, and go to the title screen. Wait for a bit, and it should start playing. After that, you can hit the demo button to watch it again. Kinda weird though...maybe a bug?
Jeezus, what a convoluted workaround. Yeah, it's a bug.

Very nice swordsmanship there. Once again I find that other people are better at my game than me.

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07-23-2003 at 07:54 AM
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Of course, the credit for my solve has to go to agaricus5 for solving it first. If it wasn't for him saying it was possible, I would've given up on that room long before solving it.

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07-23-2003 at 03:44 PM
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Woo hoo! I finally solved it! Which is good because it was my hold after all. I wouldn't have even put that room in if I had thought it was impossible, but, of course, sometimes you can believe a room is possible even if you can't do it at all. Plus, I got to work on my "diagonal swipe" technique.
07-23-2003 at 04:11 PM
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Fun fun....

That last room did take me forever though....persistance is key.
07-23-2003 at 04:54 PM
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zex20913 wrote:
It doesn't show up on the demo list, but import it anyway. Then, you may have to quit the program, and go to the title screen. Wait for a bit, and it should start playing. After that, you can hit the demo button to watch it again. Kinda weird though...maybe a bug?
I fixed this bug. (It was an import bug. Demos should only be viewable from the title screen if they are part of a hold exported by the author, and the author has marked the demos as "viewable from title screen". Otherwise, anyone should be able to view an imported demo while in the room it's for.) It'll be correct in build 32.

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07-23-2003 at 06:49 PM
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Dammit, that was how I was solving it, but when moving to the upper right hand corner I always had too many roaches and couldn't continue the circle. I guess I should have tried some more before...but yeah, I saw how it could be possible, it was just a matter of doing it without making stupid mistakes.

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07-23-2003 at 07:29 PM
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TScott, did you mark your exported demo to "Show from title screen"? I'm guessing this option was not even shown to you since you didn't author "The Arena", but... ?

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07-23-2003 at 08:18 PM
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It was a bug in the import code. It's been fixed for build 32.

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07-23-2003 at 08:48 PM
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ErikH2000 wrote:
I'm guessing this option was not even shown to you since you didn't author "The Arena", but... ?
This is correct. I never saw that option when exporting this demo. I see only see it as an option on demos for rooms I've built myself.

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Given that I made it through the old arena, I added on another room to the end of the level, and also made a second level. I haven't beaten the last room on the second level, mostly because it took me so long to beat the last room on the first level...

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07-23-2003 at 10:03 PM
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Ugh...those last couple rooms on the first level definitely qualify as "tough rooms you can use to guard secret warp rooms". Still haven't beaten 10W yet...

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07-23-2003 at 10:52 PM
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Is Tonce West do-able??
Never you mind. I just did it.

[Edited by squeekie on 12-16-2003 at 12:43 AM GMT]

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Can someone post a demo for level 2 tonce west? No matter what I do I just can't get them to behave.

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I've spent a lot of time on the high-number-monster rooms. Are they all possible?

In a previous version I remember a scroll saying that the last room had not been playtested. It might still be there.....

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12-22-2003 at 03:54 AM
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Here's a demo for level 2:10W.
I also have a demo for level 2:11W. If you want, I can post that too.



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12-22-2003 at 05:32 AM
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