Zmann
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File: Johns World.hold (19.5 KB)
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I made a hold called John's World and its really unique. Ya. So download it. NOW!

Yay, more rooms, yay.

Changes for Version 0.6:

1N 2E - Less tar baby cleanup
It is now possible to play 1E before 1W without getting stuck.

Changes for Version 0.8:

1S - Actual room there, not just a blank room with scroll.
1S 2E - Deleted the goblins and the red doors, now its a totally different (and original) puzzle.
1N - Now must use switches.

Changes for Vesion 1.0:

Thought I had lost this hold, but I found an old copy of it! Made a couple more rooms for the first level. The first level is now complete! Full editing rights, so people who have played through it before can try out the new rooms.

Changes for Version 2.0:

Level 2!

DOWNLOAD V 2.0 HERE

[Edited by Zmann on 01-30-2004 at 09:53 PM GMT]

Scott
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Put some checkpoints in and I will play this.

Quath
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I liked this hold. It had a lot of good challenges.

Here are a few of my comments:

1E - I cant get back to the Entrance so I can go to 1W. So I am unable to complete the hold unless I start over. Otherwise it is a nice challenge.

1N


1N2E


The rest of the rooms were pretty fun and of a good skill level.

Quath

Scott
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My apoligies there are checkpoints. I have played through it and its a pretty fun hold. I really liked the scrolls in the secret area rather amusing.

Quath
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I finally played 1W:



Quath

eytanz
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Quath -



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Scott
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I didn't have any trouble with that part. Most of my problems were with making stupid mistakes.

zex20913
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I have the digs for this new hold. Not insanely hard (Sorry Wes...yours was extreme to the...extreme. I still haven't finished yet.) Individual room thoughts...

Entrance:
great design, and still some thinking involved.

1W:



1E:


1N, 1E:


1N: Good puzzle. New trapdoor movement was needed than I'd seen before.

1N, 2E: Excellent use of timing.

2E: Good trapdoor placement.

1S, 2E: Loved it.

1S, 1E: Hated it for a bit, then loved it.

1S: Love the design. Puzzle was pretty fair too. Couple different solutions, both good.



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Scott
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The exit from 1E to 1N1E is too wide. If you leave it on the left most square you land on the wall. I know this doesn't let you complete the room and I think Mike has put something in to prevent this in build 30. Just thought I would point it out.

Zmann
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Scott said:
The exit from 1E to 1N1E is too wide. If you leave it on the left most square you land on the wall.

Yah, I noticed that too right when I exported it, but I decided not to change it until the next update. Don't worry, I'll change it in the next version.

Zmann
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Horray, I thought I had lost the hold, but found the file just laying around on my computer. Download version 1.0 now!

Oneiromancer
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I think 1W could use a checkpoint in the hallway, just because there are so many sections with different styles/goals, and it's easy to make stupid mistakes. I can put one in myself, of course, since anyone can edit, but I thought I would mention this.

Edit: never mind, I'm an idiot...I didn't see the checkpoint near the bottom of the room. Okay, good enough for me.

Game on,

[Edited by Oneiromancer on 10-22-2003 at 09:14 PM GMT]

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Oneiromancer
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Okay, finished the hold...I never played this one before, for some reason. Anyway, my favorite room was 2N. It seems to me there is an extra serpent, as I only needed one for the left side. Was this intentional? Otherwise I pretty much agree with other people's comments. One way to make the cleanup of 1N 2E less tedious would be to put a second invisibility potion down somewhere where Beethro could get it after killing the tar mother, so that the cleanup can go faster. My last comment is that for 1S 2E I found it easiest just to find a safe spot and let the tar grow. Otherwise I got surrounded too easily. It's funny how sometimes it's easier to fend off a crowd of creatures when there are brains around than when there aren't.

Game on,


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Zmann
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Ya, the extra serpent was intentional. At first I put it in because I thought you needed it. I then figured out you didn't need it, but I kept it anyway, because while testing, somehow it always managed to screw me up.

Thanks for the comments.

-Zmann

Zmann
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Version 2! Wooo.