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Hi everyone,

I checked the third eye unrelated to the other two because I was having difficulty getting them to press the plate that locks you in, but unfortunately his line of sight is set up that it's not possible to use mirrors on him, so I am forced to use the other two (the ones lined up vertically facing in exact opposite directions).

How do I succesfully get either one of them in the chamber that locks you in the chamber, but also opens the gate to kill the first eye?

Obviously I can't just manipulate them by being close or by using a mirror or stepping myself, cause then I get locked in too with no way to exit (due to the door directly next to the plate closing as well), I need to manipulate them from a far enough distance I don't get locked in as well, the only question is how to execute it?
12-27-2024 at 10:00 PM
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Oh wait... I think the law of Hints and Solutions strikes again!

Because the chamber doors are "toggle", but the door to the first eye is "always open no matter what", neither eye is necessary and I can use a mirror instead with some clever pushing that you have to do to solve other puzzles in this level.
12-27-2024 at 10:14 PM
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But that doesn't work in the final section at the pressure plate... I think I actually do need an eye, the only question is how to execute it?
12-27-2024 at 10:16 PM
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You are correct that it's impossible to push a mirror onto the west pressure plate.

If an eye steps onto it, Beethro will be stuck in the west area. What can be done about that? Check the plate connections.
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12-28-2024 at 01:14 AM
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Yes, but as I pointed out it's physically impossible to wake the eye, and you can't put anything else inside the east chamber period, owing to the door only opening from the western chamber.

[Last edited by azb at 12-28-2024 01:02 PM : I added an incorrect detail to my last sentence]
12-28-2024 at 12:47 PM
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You can't put anything in the east chamber, but
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12-28-2024 at 01:30 PM
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Then what? If you point out yourself that you get stuck if you put an eye in the west chamber (this applies to both eyes, doesn't matter which), and I proved it's impossible to put a mirror due to the design of the room, and I also proved it's not possible to wake the eastern eye at all, then there's not really anything left to do in the room.

Your most recent hint suggests I need to use the western eyes in the western chamber, when you said earlier I would get stuck if I did exactly just that.
12-28-2024 at 01:39 PM
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You do get stuck if you put an eye on the west pressure plate, but you can get unstuck...
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12-28-2024 at 01:52 PM
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Awesome! Yet another great lynchpin.
12-28-2024 at 01:55 PM
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