Dragon Fogel
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If an orb is next to a diagonal gentryii chain, Halph can activate the orb from across the chain. However, a player who has touched a power token or has a player role with the ability to activate orbs on bump cannot do this.

I feel like this is something that should be consistent - either orbs are accessible across the chain without a weapon, or they aren't.

Dragon Fogel
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Did some more poking around.

The same inconsistency happens if you try to bump diagonally from an orthosquare, or against the direction of a force arrow. The player fails to hit the orb, but Halph does hit it. This applies whether the obstruction is on your tile or on the orb's.

Attempting to bump a seeding beacon across such obstacles also fails. You also can't bump a door to command Halph.

I guess this suggests that not being able to bump across an obstacle is normal and the weird thing is Halph's ability to activate orbs across obstacles anyways?

mrimer
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Thanks for reporting this issue. Am I understanding correctly that the suggestion is to change the game logic to prevent Halph from being able to do activate across diagonals when the player cannot?

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Dragon Fogel
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I think it would be best for the behavior to be consistent for both Halph and the player. It's probably less disruptive to make Halph change than the player, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to look into whether that's actually the case.

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This behavior should preferably also be consistent with Beethro's dagger usage, which (I think) allows bumping through the chain. I don't remember about orthosquares. In any case, the dagger behavior can't be changed, since I assume it appears in rooms with gentryii or orthosquares. It is better then (if possible) to make the other behaviors consistent with that.