averagemoe
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I have this vague memory of poking around in the data files for the original release version of TCB and seeing the raw images for the brick background of the menu screen, the name "DROD" above the menu items, and the shadow it casts on the aforementioned bricks.

But now, I've dug up that old program, looked in the data, and now the only images I see in Bitmaps are the Caravel Logo, the door on the loading screen, the desktop icon, and a few things the cursor might turn into.

And what confuses me is that I'm still able to easily overwrite all the menu screen assets from JTRH. What happened there? What if I wanted to swap the menu background out for the one from RPG? (Which incidentally, I can't find either.)

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mrimer
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I think I get the gist, but I'm not exactly sure what you're asking about. Are you saying these background images are not present either in the master .dat file or on disk?

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I'm saying they're not in

Program Files\DROD - The City Beneath\Data\Bitmaps

Or anywhere else accessible by my computers filing system.

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Thanks for explaining to me. The files are packaged into the master .dat file.

You should still be able to mod the images by placing alternative versions of the files in that directory, and/or modifying drod.ini.

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This is getting kind of complicated. I just want the background stones from the RPG title screen.

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averagemoe wrote:
This is getting kind of complicated. I just want the background stones from the RPG title screen.

You'd have to extract them from the .dat file, as with other image assets.

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Okay, I'm thinking about what you said about modding the assets. I'm thinking the easiest course of action I could take is replace everything on the menu except the background with transparency, and then screenshot that. What should I do to the .ini to make that happen?

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averagemoe wrote:
replace everything on the menu except the background with transparency, and then screenshot that. What should I do to the .ini to make that happen?

Hmm...nice idea, though I don't think you can modify the .ini to make the main menu text go away. Also, most images are hardcoded, so you wouldn't go to the INI to change those. Search for "imageFilenames" here to find the image filenames:

https://github.com/EvidentlyCube/drod/blob/master/DROD/TitleScreen.cpp

You would need to provide matching transparent image files to override these files. Try it out with one image and see if it works.

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I appreciate that you're still willing to help, but someone saw these posts and PMed me the extracted images. I'm set.

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averagemoe wrote:
I appreciate that you're still willing to help, but someone saw these posts and PMed me the extracted images. I'm set.

Awesome! Thanks for letting me know.

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I am Gandalf the White.
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