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Here's a one level hold I've made. I've played through it so I know it's solvable and I don't intend to add any new rooms. I don't think it's really good enough for the holds section, though, so I'll just post it here.
06-08-2004 at 04:20 PM
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Well, I played it a little and it seems pretty good - but it desperately needs checkpoints, in most of its rooms...

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06-08-2004 at 05:10 PM
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The entrance really needs several. It's all to easy to make a wrong move and have to restart the entire room.

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06-08-2004 at 05:33 PM
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I've played every room, defeated seven of them. The Entrance, 2S1E, and 2S all need checkpoints.

Also, I cannot return anywhere from the south-western checkpoint in 1S1W. Are you certain there is a path?

I really like how some of the rooms rely on quirks, and they're different quirks, which makes it fun to figure them out. Other than 2S, I've really enjoyed this hold.

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06-08-2004 at 10:50 PM
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I'm quite surprised with the response so far, because this hold was intended as a sort of joke. Maybe you are just being polite. :D

I had an idea and then quickly added some rooms around it. Most of the rooms have been made without much thought and with very little testing. Judging by the feedback, perhaps it could be turned into a proper hold with some tweaking.

The absense of checkpoints was intentional, but I'm not sure if it was the correct decision.

Regarding the southwest corner of 1S1W
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06-09-2004 at 10:50 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean about 1S1W - it's too hard to see what is going on there just by looking at it.

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06-09-2004 at 02:03 PM
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The rooms I can't get are 2S and 1S1W. I don't know if 2S is solvable, I certainly can't do it, though if the brains weren't there it would be just fine.

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06-09-2004 at 06:31 PM
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Ah, I see what I was doing wrong.

Yup, completed the hold.

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06-09-2004 at 06:48 PM
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eytanz wrote:
Ah, I see what I was doing wrong.

Yup, completed the hold.

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I think I've also "completed" it as well, but I get sent back to the start of the level again when I go down the stairs. Is this the old "stairs reset bug" creeping in again?

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06-09-2004 at 07:09 PM
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If the stairs send you back to the start, then it's the bug.

I really wonder how this bug works, because everything worked fine when I first tested the hold and also when I played it again today. Maybe if I deleted and imported it, then I would get the infected version, not that I'd want to of course.
06-09-2004 at 07:58 PM
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agaricus5 wrote:
I think I've also "completed" it as well, but I get sent back to the start of the level again when I go down the stairs. Is this the old "stairs reset bug" creeping in again?
I checked the .hold file and it's correct, i.e. the stairs go to "End Hold". Wesley, is this behavior reproducable with your .dats? (If you delete the hold and import it again, does the same thing happen?) If it is, then I'd like a copy of your .dats (or anyone else's who is sure this bug would manifest itself, were I to use their .dats and import this hold) so I can reproduce the bug myself.

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06-09-2004 at 08:36 PM
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why is it 1 beethro? not just beethro?
06-11-2004 at 04:17 AM
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Because "9 Rooms, Beethro" doesn't have the same sort of impact, I guess.

Anyway, if anyone manages to solve 2S, I'd love to see a demo of it

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06-11-2004 at 04:49 AM
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I have solved 6 rooms
the entrance is probably solvable
because I have managed to clear all the trapdoors on one half of the room but with no checkpoints I don't have the patience to finish it
2s I will be truly amazed if anyone gets it
1w1s there is no way to solve it
dimono I assume you actually solved the entrance as opposed to just taking the stairs out since you say 7 rooms?

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06-11-2004 at 10:55 PM
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Yep. Found the patience, finished it, exited stage right.

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06-11-2004 at 11:32 PM
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