Chimerix
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I don't actually have a problem with this room, but I don't know where else to post logically.

I've made a fair dinkum effort with the search engine, to no avail. Really, I did!

Anyway, I've mastered the hold. Read the credits, learned the secret of the challenge, went back and filled in all the secret rooms I missed. It said "Hold Mastered!"

Now, in the course of my journeys, I've periodically read hints about the "Master Gate" in the City, but these hints were all misplaced, usually in the forum for a secret room which, for some random user, was the last room they needed to conquer. Like an idiot, I ignored the hints that didn't apply to my particular problem de jour.

Now I have no idea where to start to find the bonus material. Other than remembering some gossiper saying "There's a secret room in the West of the City," I'm screwed. I hated my time in the city, don't really want to spend too much more in there. Besides, the only Restore game wherein I've cleared all the rooms still has me as 256 Slayer.

Could someone either steer me to one of those rooms with the misplaced hints, or give me a starting point? I'd dearly love to see the rest!

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CuriousShyRabbit
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How about this thread.

Briareos
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Or this one, just started yesterday...

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Chimerix
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Mahalo, guys! Just the ticket!!

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DCLeadboot
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I'm going to need to regather the willpower before looking for those secret rooms - the ones I had to tackle already took it out of me.

In the meantime, though, I must admit the ending left me a little nonplussed.
I've fought my way through three very challenging holds, often cursing and swearing at the brutally difficult rooms and questioning how anyone could beat them without asking for hints.
I killed the psychotic 'Neather, bettered the brutal 39th Slayer, learned of some very sinister goings on in both the City Beneath and in Dugandy, thwarted the Archivists' planned genocide, made an irrevocable enemy of nephew Halph...
And for what? A peephole to Australia?
How does this make sense?
I expected something profound - otherwise why were they trying so hard to stop me reaching Lowest Point?
I hoped for answers, and I'm still just as much in the dark as before I started...
Totally confused...

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12th Archivist
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DCLeadboot wrote:
I hoped for answers, and I'm still just as much in the dark as before I started...

I believe that was the point.

Conversation regarding the game as a whole (including the ending) should go in the General board, not the Hints and Solutions board. If you are searching for secret rooms, remember that the restore screen lists every level along with how many secret rooms you have visited over how many there are in that level.

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DCLeadboot
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Well now, I finally completed this trilogy for the second time in only 17 years!
I suppose The Second Sky is a logical sequel, whenever I can regather my strength after the challenges of these games.

However, the Hold Completion for me stands at only 34%
I've carefully compared all my mini-maps with the ones showing on this help forum, and they just about match up (with the exception of one room in the far-flung SW corner of The City, which is inaccessible from the neighbouring rooms)
I'm guessing there are more secret rooms in this hold that are so secret, even these forums don't know about them? 😅

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LovaP48
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DCLeadboot wrote:
Well now, I finally completed this trilogy for the second time in only 17 years!

Congratulations!

DCLeadboot wrote:
I suppose The Second Sky is a logical sequel, whenever I can regather my strength after the challenges of these games.

As far as I understand, there are some Smitemaster's Selections that are direct sequels after which "The Second Sky" happens. (Definitely Finding the First Truth, but there might be more)

DCLeadboot wrote:
I'm guessing there are more secret rooms in this hold that are so secret, even these forums don't know about them? 😅

No, secret rooms don't show up in the "find the room" minimaps directly.
To find them, you need to use the "go N/W/E/S" buttons and then click "check hints".
There are plenty of people who completed all official releases and gotten 100% secrets, for the record.

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After conquering the hold, the Restore screen will show the total number of secrets on each level, which helps you know where you are missing secrets.

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DCLeadboot
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LovaP48 wrote:
To find them, you need to use the "go N/W/E/S" buttons and then click "check hints".

Hmm? Where is this "Go N/W/E/S" button?

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On the hints search page -- 'Get Help for a Room' on any H&S forum thread, or just https://forum.caravelgames.com/searchhints.php?BoardID=1#309/1526/0/0 will take you to TCB.

You'll be able to see and click on any non-secret rooms, but then there are 'Go North' and other directional buttons you can use to check unlisted rooms.

For a specific example (spoiler of a secret room location):
Personally I still start with Nuntar's suggestion -- use the Restore screen to confirm which levels have outstanding secrets, then try to figure out their location by exploring. But if you get completely stuck, you can use the forum feature.

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