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I have died so many times in this room that it's pathetic. I hate to make any moves now because I'm sick of starting over. This is one room in need of a save square. Any help?

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09-10-2003 at 03:13 AM
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There's no way you can win from the situation shown above.

I'm giving two versions of the same hint, one which should put you on the right path and one which gives the explicit solution:

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09-10-2003 at 04:36 AM
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Thanks eytanz. I wasn't even thinking of that on the entrance. I was starting at the top of entrance and had queens everywhere. As soon as I took your hint I got the room in one try. I have been trying that room for 2 days.


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09-10-2003 at 06:16 AM
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squeekie, if someone thinks that they should make a hint secret, then when referring to that hint you should also make it secret so that someone else doesn't accidentally spoil themselves of the answer. If you don't know how to make text secret there are several posts about this in The Site section.

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09-10-2003 at 06:33 AM
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Squeekie - could you please consider putting your screenshots in a more efficient file format? The uncompressed .bmp files you're linking to at the moment are 1MB apiece, which takes me around 3-5 minutes to download on dialup, for a single file. I'm not sure what art software you've got, there's plenty of freeware out there to do the job (e.g. Irfanview is a popular freeware image viewer/converter)

eytanz wrote:
There's no way you can win from the situation shown above.

Quibbling over details I know, but...

Click here to view the secret text

09-10-2003 at 08:32 AM
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StuartK wrote:
eytanz wrote:
There's no way you can win from the situation shown above.

Quibbling over details I know, but...

Click here to view the secret text

Click here to view the secret text


[Edited by eytanz on 09-10-2003 at 01:00 PM]

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I have done it from the top of the entrance, and while it does take a while, it works. Normally I can do it without the little goblin alcove...but here it is. Possible.

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09-10-2003 at 06:11 PM
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I wasn't aware of the file size. I use hypersnap for screen capture and editing. I also have ACDC for image editing. I will crop all but what needs to be seen and convert to GIF files in the future. If the sitemasters prefer I will only describe the situation with no picture. I just thought that pictures take the place of allot of words and words can be mistaken.

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09-10-2003 at 08:01 PM
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Well, you can also use the "Insert DROD Room image" option on the right side of the Post a Message screen, above the Smilies, but that only shows the state of the room when you start. And you can have that picture be a link in the message so that people on dial-up don't have to wait for it to load. Actually, if you have web space, that is an option...put it on the web and link to it. Or, attach it to the post, although that's not good for large file sizes either. I think it is probably best if you just look into using a smaller image resolution to cut the file size down.

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09-10-2003 at 08:59 PM
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squeekie wrote:
I wasn't aware of the file size. I use hypersnap for screen capture and editing. I also have ACDC for image editing. I will crop all but what needs to be seen and convert to GIF files in the future. If the sitemasters prefer I will only describe the situation with no picture. I just thought that pictures take the place of allot of words and words can be mistaken.

Oh I quite agree (it's something of a shame I can't play from the point demonstrated in the screenshot onwards though ;) ) The file doesn't really need to be cropped if you use the appropriate format. A screenshot should be around 80kB if you use an optimised .gif, or 40kB for a .png file (or larger if they're not optimised) If you've ever used the built in screenshot feature of this forum (Insert DROD Room image) those files are in .png format.

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Of course, I may be wrong - but I believe that I'm right until proven wrong.

Attached is a demo completing the room in 350 moves, entering at the top. This can probably be improved by 5-10 I think, if anyone wants to try that for a challenge.

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I have done it from the top of the entrance, and while it does take a while, it works. Normally I can do it without the little goblin alcove...but here it is. Possible.

Not with the pre-build 38 demo you attached though ;) Beethro lasted for quite a while, fought valiantly, but the end was inevitable, and ignoble :~)
09-10-2003 at 09:01 PM
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Oh yeah...queens changed...oops. I used Build 34.

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I thought I would try this with the queens split a bit differently. I entered in the middle and sent 3 queens to the exit passage. I have attached my demo.
09-11-2003 at 01:55 AM
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