mrimer
Level: Legendary Smitemaster

Rank Points: 5470
Registered: 02-04-2003
IP: Logged

Mattcrampy wrote:
As far as I understand it, those dream dictionaries don't work, as dreams are intensely personal things.

Of course. Lest I give the wrong impression, I'm not trying to use someone's writing on the internet as a source of personal divination. Content is only partly relevant, and I think what I personally associate this content to as and after I am dreaming is the part that is about me. (It's my brain thinking these things and generating these dreams, after all. Divine sources aside, who else would what it all means come from?) I think another good way to understand what your dream has to do with you is to pay attention to what emotions you feel during your dreams, not just content. Your emotions come from your beliefs.

For instance, corroding teeth would have different meanings depending on whether you liked or hated your teeth, had been to the dentist, whether your dentist was a nice person, if you have had or wear braces, all sorts of things.

Being in a public place naked and everyone laughing at you, that one's straightforward, though.

Mmm...I'm not sure I follow why one of these would be straightforward and the other one isn't. I'm not ready to say that these are universal symbols that would be understood on both conscious and unconscious levels by all of humanity. I think there are certain cultural contexts that are universal among nearly all members of a population, however. So, to put what you said in other words, being naked in public carries a certain ubiquitous connotation. I'm not sure the former doesn't have a similar universal connotation, though. Also, I'd be ready to debate whether either symbol would carry this same connotation within other cultures.

[Edited by mrimer at Local Time:05-27-2005 at 12:32 AM]

wackhead_uk
Level: Smiter

Rank Points: 352
Registered: 06-21-2004
IP: Logged

Malarame wrote:
I remember falling and being really scared, but just as I was about to hit the ground I woke up.

All the dreams I have of falling (very rarely) End up with me hitting the floor befor I wake up. Sometimes, I even climb right back up to where I fell off and jump off again to see what it is like. Strange.

trick
Level: Legendary Smitemaster
Rank Points: 2580
Registered: 04-12-2003
IP: Logged

To add a bit to my previous post, I do have dreams that fall between the "dreamworld" and the extremely weird as well. For example, a few months ago I had this dream where I was chasing someone, and ended up in a café. Whoever it was I chased got away, I think, but then I turned into a fireball and started "soul-jumping" between different creatures and various inanimate objects to get onwards. Each creature/object had their own way of moving, each had limitations, and I had different levels of control of them. Whenever I wanted to jump into something, it had to be relatively close, except the fireball, which was just spontaneously created on the spot. The fireball had complete control and not much movement limitations (although it tended to fly in circles), except I couldn't go underwater, as that would extinguish the fire -- so I had to jump into a frog. As a frog, I had much less control (since the frog had its own mind), I had to sort of "convince" it to do whatever it was I wanted it to do. Some things were very difficult convincing it to do, such as flying (although it was possible with some concentration). Later I changed into a fish, which was a much better and faster swimmer, and better at flying (or, at least, jumping over water without support), and from there into a bird. At one point I jumped into a rock, which was very hard to convince of anything except falling down. As time went on, controlling things became easier and easier. In the end, I went up into the universe and into what seemed like another dimension.

This dream was extremely fun. I want to do a game based on it some day.

I've also experienced death in a dream, once. I was slowly drowning in some acid and feeling the life getting drained out of me. It's hard to explain, but after I had died, I didn't sense anything. There was not even sight, so I didn't see black... You know how you don't see anything out the back of your head ? Like that. This lasted a couple of seconds before I woke up. It was a bit unsettling.

Although, for me, the most unsettling dreams are those that happen in that small timeframe after you open your eyes but before you actually wake up completely. You see and feel the actual real world, but the brain isn't entirely out of dream-mode yet, so very weird stuff can still happen for a short second before they fade away. You know it's just the remains of a dream, but they feel so real, since you're actually sensing the real world at the same time... Doesn't mix well with creepy shadows fleeing your bed as you wake up

- Gerry

cheese obsessive
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 222
Registered: 10-10-2004
IP: Logged

This dream was extremely fun. I want to do a game based on it some day.

You made up a game in your sleep? There is a game sort of like that for Nintendo 64 called "space station silicon valley." You are this computer chip thinger and you can wander around and sort of posess a bunch of animals. Sort of along the same lines as making something up whilst you slumber, I actually composed music in my sleep once...

There was not even sight, so I didn't see black... You know how you don't see anything out the back of your head ? Like that.

Hah. I just thought of something. do you ever wonder what it would be like to see infinite clearness in every direction? What would it look like? Would you just see infinite nothingness? Or would it eventually fade into darkness? That would be awesome.

agaricus5
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 1838
Registered: 02-04-2003
IP: Logged

cheese obsessive wrote:
Hah. I just thought of something. do you ever wonder what it would be like to see infinite clearness in every direction? What would it look like? Would you just see infinite nothingness? Or would it eventually fade into darkness? That would be awesome.

Well, you'd have to wait for an infinity to get your answer, since it will take an infinity for the light to reach whatever is out there, and then another infinity to come back to hit your eyes. I guess you'd see an infinite darkness, since no light from the horizon will ever reach you.

____________________________
Resident Medic/Mycologist

Maurog
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 1501
Registered: 09-16-2004
IP: Logged

By the way, did any of you had false-starts?

I had them about twice, it happens when you wake up from an alarm or something, and too tired to do anything, so you kinda drift back into closing your eyes, then suddenly wake up (or so it seems), dress up, brush your teeth etc, get ready to leave the house, open the door, and BOOM, wake up for real. Then you look at the clock and go omg omg, I'm so bloody late and start dressing at triple speed. Very annoying.

____________________________
Slay the living! Raise the dead!
Paint the sky in crimson red!

mrimer
Level: Legendary Smitemaster

Rank Points: 5470
Registered: 02-04-2003
IP: Logged

Maurog wrote:
I had them about twice, it happens when you wake up from an alarm or something, and too tired to do anything, so you kinda drift back into closing your eyes, then suddenly wake up (or so it seems), dress up, brush your teeth etc, get ready to leave the house, open the door, and BOOM, wake up for real.

Yeah, man, that's freaky. I remember having a dream like that where it happened *twice* in the same dream. I dreamt I was waking up, so I got up, and then I woke up again. So I stood up, and then woke up again. This time for real (I think). Makes you wonder whether someday you'll inexplicably wake up out of this reality and end up in a higher one.

wackhead_uk
Level: Smiter

Rank Points: 352
Registered: 06-21-2004
IP: Logged

"Baldrick! Who gave you permission to have the head of a corgi? Oh, it's a dream..."

From Blackadder

Mattcrampy
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 2388
Registered: 05-29-2003
IP: Logged

I don't think I've ever had a false-start dream, but I fairly regularly fade out of dreams. I'm in the middle of a conversation, and I speak out loud, in bed, and not in the dream. By the time everyone in the dream is wondering why I've got my yap shut, I wake up.

Apparantly my dad used to have a fair bit of fun having conversations with my mum in her dreams. He'd ask her questions, and she'd hear them from someone in her dream, so as long as he didn't break character, he could talk to her in her dream.

Trick's dream reminds me of something that seems to happen when I get a fever - sometimes I'll hallucinate a Tetris-like puzzle game, except the blocks are in big chains and rotate rather than drop. I've only seen it twice - the second time the blocks had letters on them, making me think that eventually I'll work out the rules for this game.

Matt

____________________________
What do you call an elephant at the North Pole?

cheese obsessive
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 222
Registered: 10-10-2004
IP: Logged

I don't think I've ever had a false-start dream, but I fairly regularly fade out of dreams. I'm in the middle of a conversation, and I speak out loud, in bed, and not in the dream. By the time everyone in the dream is wondering why I've got my yap shut, I wake up.

I sort of did that once. I woke up the whole house, when in my sleep, I scremed "NOOOO!!!! DON'T TAKE OVER MT. CLOUDY-CLOUD!!!!!" I dreamt an evil subsitute teacher was going to take over a magical place called Mt. Cloudy-cloud.

b0rsuk
Level: Smiter

Rank Points: 489
Registered: 11-23-2003
IP: Logged

Hmm.

A horse with wings is called Pegasus.

A pig with wings is called Pigasus.

Then, how do you call a badger with wings ? Badgesus doesn't sound right.
No, I'm not kidding. I've seen a badger with bird-like wings in my dreams. I remember only last part of that dream. I've seen a winged badger flapping wings vigorously, and - finally - taking off.
I vaguely remember that there was more to it earlier, but can't place it.

I suppose that's a good omen.

I rarely remember my dreams. They tend to be very weird, often to the point they're very inconsistent and illogical. In my dreams, I ocassionaly think "what the hell is that ?" or "but that doesn't make sense at all".

[Edited by b0rsuk at Local Time:05-24-2005 at 02:47 PM]

[Edited by b0rsuk at Local Time:05-24-2005 at 02:49 PM]

____________________________

http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20051128/adams_01.shtml

stigant
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 1182
Registered: 08-19-2004
IP: Logged

Well, the taxonomic name for the Badger sub-family is Melinae. So how about Melisus (pl: Melisae)

____________________________
Progress Quest Progress

MeckMeck GRE
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 594
Registered: 01-03-2005
IP: Logged

Dreams are often weird and have a low resolution (mine mostly look a little smoothly and unsharp , but sometimes also real and clean). Today I dreamed that we were again driving to Konstanz for work experience. However it interrupted and i was suddenly sitting in school writing a exam. Seconds later I was sitting again in the bus driving to Konstanz, but now to write a exam there. However I got control over the dream at this moment and spawned me a Smoke Grenade to tranquilise the bus driver which was quite thin. Then I wanted to drive around and as i hit the throotle the bus accelerated very strong. Few seconds later a road bump made the bus jump and all fell out of the bus. I landed in a garden full of metal scraps (maybe from the bus, maybe not). However I could use my hands to remote controll metal things from that point. I tried a banana but that was impossible. Then I woke up. Saw my clock schowing 7, fell asleep again and just few moments later woke up and saw my clock showing 9.

Have you got the same weird thing, that as soon you know your dreaming can change your environment or spawn things just by thinking at them ?

agaricus5
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 1838
Registered: 02-04-2003
IP: Logged

Sorry to bring this thread back up, and you may think me pretty silly for writing about this; but last night (or more precisely, this morning) I had a surprisingly realistic DROD Dream! I can't remember much about the early part, but it went something like this (from the earliest point I can remember):

I was visiting the DROD Forum, and browsing through some threads. For some strange reason, the writing in the threads wasn't garbled or non-existent; from my impression of it, the text was actually coherent in that it was made of proper words and paragraphing (for longer replies), and possibly also punctuation as well. I can't actually remember any of what I read during the early part of the dream, though, although I remember that I was actually reading it in the sense that my brain was processing what I was seeing as text. After having looked through the threads, I then came to a strange 7-page thread (although the seventh had only one one-line post on it) which was about sending Matt away (probably Matt Cramp, although I can't remember exactly, and it didn't say exactly where to, either). I began to read at page 6, and found numerous discussions involving copying his actions in a game called "Monkeys", one of which actually contained a link to a separate thread about the subject. In this thread, there were more examples of how the game could be played for the first 10-15 posts, until it was interrupted by some sort of spammer calling for someone else he/she knew on the Forum to reply back. Directly after (I assume that he/she had not been replied to) he/she then requested that people on this Forum should make posts at least every 30 minutes. He/she was then replied to by a newer forum member (with, I seem to remember, somewhere around 13-19 rank points) who warned, rather bizarrely, about "26000/28500 frequency switchers" who could escape banning by "jumping frequency" [possibly a new way to access and join the Forum - by radio!]. During this entire section, although it was more prominent towards the end, my arms felt as if they were moving around, probably simulating moving my mouse, which with retrospect possibly means that I was actually waving my arms around in mid-air in my sleep.

After that, I somehow switched to the JtRH editor screen, and began looking at the position indicator bar at the top of the screen. I managed to get to "20-37 times north/east" and then began to wonder if their DROD Indicatory Number equivalents would fit on the screen. I then began to consider reviving this thread, and then decided to ask Erik to add them in to the game. As soon as I thought that, however, I then began to wonder why I was thinking about DROD while I was asleep, and soon realised that I was actually dreaming. At this point, I woke up.

____________________________
Resident Medic/Mycologist

Oneiromancer
Level: Legendary Smitemaster

Rank Points: 2936
Registered: 03-29-2003
IP: Logged

agaricus5 wrote:
I was visiting the DROD Forum, and browsing through some threads. For some strange reason, the writing in the threads wasn't garbled or non-existent; from my impression of it, the text was actually coherent in that it was made of proper words and paragraphing (for longer replies), and possibly also punctuation as well.

Well, I guess that's how you knew it was a dream.

Game on,

____________________________
"He who is certain he knows the ending of things when he is only beginning them is either extremely wise or extremely foolish; no matter which is true, he is certainly an unhappy man, for he has put a knife in the heart of wonder." -- Tad Williams

agaricus5
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 1838
Registered: 02-04-2003
IP: Logged

Oneiromancer wrote:

agaricus5 wrote:
I was visiting the DROD Forum, and browsing through some threads. For some strange reason, the writing in the threads wasn't garbled or non-existent; from my impression of it, the text was actually coherent in that it was made of proper words and paragraphing (for longer replies), and possibly also punctuation as well.

Well, I guess that's how you knew it was a dream.

Game on,

Actually, most regular people here (and many occasional posters) have a good command of English and post properly written messages, so I may have just been dreaming about those. What surprised me more was the fact that my brain took the time and processing power to fill in messages with coherent text, since I wouldn't have expected it to be that active when asleep.

____________________________
Resident Medic/Mycologist

Maurog
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 1501
Registered: 09-16-2004
IP: Logged

You know it's not really true. Dreams operate in a way different from normal processing, so it may have just been a label saying "something which looks like amazingly coherent text" rather than amazingly coherent text. I once dreamt about someone explaining to me how to build a time machine. He had these sketches and all, and I understood every word and it made perfect sense. When he finished explaining, I said something on the lines of "omg, it's really easy". Of course, when I woke up I couldn't remember anything about how to build a time machine

____________________________
Slay the living! Raise the dead!
Paint the sky in crimson red!

cheese obsessive
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 222
Registered: 10-10-2004
IP: Logged

Has anyone had a dream about a random acquaintence, and all of a sudden, you just can't stop thinking about that person, and you don't know why, even though you don't rally know them all-too-well? Because I did like a month ago, and now for some reason I can't stop thinking about someone. O_O




In other news, just a few nights ago, I actually dreamed up a plot for a video game, sort of. So here it is.

Setting - Earth, a few hundred years into the future. America has become so obese and corrupt, that some of its citizens have formed a protest group to add more laws so America isn't so destroyed. This is a peaceful group, however. No violence. One character, a girl in high school, who belongs to this peace protesting group, has managed to do something very few citizens have managed to do lately...not get fat. Obviously, now, all of the guys in school want her, or something. However, she just moved into town, and knows no one....except for one guy, who she knew as a child for a while, and coincidentally, just ended up at the same school as someone she hasn't seen for like 8 years. But he is a jock now, and she is a drummer. Society doesn't really accept music nerds, now, but she wants to see him again.

(Skip large chunk, because I haven't thought of anything here yet.)

Now, Somehow, both of these characters end up on a cruise ship. But we are in the future now. This cruise ship cruises through space. Now everyone is pretty much having a good time, dancing to reggae, and whatnot. The girl is looking out of the ship window, and sees something flying toward Earth. A few minutes later, a spectacular explosion is seen, and a large chunk of earth is no more. A terrorist group claims responsibility for it. The group that claimed responsibility is the same group that protested the near-anarchy in America. But the group wouldn't do that, would they? Being all peaceful? And now, a group of terrorists was also on board, and they hijack the cruise ship. Eventually, the cruise ship crashes into some foreign planet a long way away from earth.

Now, the planet I thought of is basically an allegory for music history. The planet consists of four continents and a small island nation, all at war with each other. Bachland (Baroque period) is a dictatorship/communism, because everything is very structured and orderly, Mozartia (Classical period) is a theocracy. A very simple, mostly peaceful continent, Lisztistan (Romantic) is a democracy, with many freedoms, and Bartokia (20th century, neoclassical, impressionism, and expressionism) an anarchy with basically no rules, and while being in a world war, they are also in a civil war. There is also the small island of Lennongrad (Modern music) which is a nation of rebels. Each nation thinks that the crashed life boat of the cruise ship is a weapon of one of the other nations. So each country is fighting for posession of the main characters. Oh yeah. The world sport is drum corps.


So basically, that is pretty much the story I thought of...but I should write more, just to finish it and entertain myself, but I also want to think of a battle system that hasn't really been done yet. I can't really think of one, except having a DROD puzzle for every battle, but I can't think of how to make that work too well. I also thought, being a drummer, is having the girl's weapon be a marching snare drum, which makes a lot of noise, and hurts the enemies ears enough to take away many HP's. The weapon can be based on timing of the buttons, or something. I don't really know.

I have even inspired myself to start writing music for a video game that doesn't exist. I have about 4 songs half-written.

THE END!