eytanz
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Hi,

This isn't really a bug, but it's impossible to delete a hold once it's created. There really should be a way to do so.

Also, and an actual bug - the "rename hold" button doesn't work; it prompts me for a new name but doesn't actually change anything.

I'm running build 16 on Windows XP.

[Edited by eytanz on 06-15-2003 at 07:09 AM]

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Actually, it is possible to delete a hold by selecting it and clicking the delete button. Same goes for levels and rooms.

As for the bug you mention, I have no problems with renaming holds. However, it seems that the game refuses to rename King Dugan's Dungeon if what you enter is longer than the current name. I'll put it in.

Edit: Tested a bit more. The game won't rename a hold if you only append characters at the end of the current name.

[Edited by Watcher on 06-15-2003 at 01:15 PM]

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eytanz
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Watcher wrote:
Actually, it is possible to delete a hold by selecting it and clicking the delete button. Same goes for levels and rooms.

Thanks - but I would recommend (probably for future versions) adding a button to do so, since having to switch from the GUI for new holds/renaming to the keyboard for deletion is really non-intuitive.

Eytan

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eytanz wrote:
Thanks - but I would recommend (probably for future versions) adding a button to do so, since having to switch from the GUI for new holds/renaming to the keyboard for deletion is really non-intuitive.

I agree that it's non-intuitive. I made it this way on purpose because I really want deleting to be a conscious decision. Just ask anyone who's erased hours or days of work with a single button and they'll tell you they wished it hadn't been so quick and easy to do. This is my rationale. What do you think?

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I don't think making it hard for people to figure out how to delete holds really helps. All you're doing is adding a hurdle for people who are new to the editor - people experienced with the editor will just press DEL as readily as they would press an on-screen button.

If you want to make sure that hold deletion is deliberate, I would add a delete button, and then have a confirmation screen that can only be affirmed with the keyboard (i.e. "are you sure? Type "YES" to delete the hold", which only accepts the fully word "YES" rather than just 'Y'). This makes it impossible for anyone to delete anything by mistake/out of a moment's impulse, but won't make newcomers to the editor have to run to the manual to figure out how to do so when they really need to.

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