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The 'Neatherhood is a published user-made hold where highscores have never worked. The spider has always rejected them. I was heping Shick test a server-side change and came into a strange issue where 1.2.3.70 is just straight-up not even able to successfully sumbit a score for this hold. The Nth-place notification never pops up in-game and the server log is not showing any log of having received a score.

Note that this bug is NOT happening in the Steam beta, which is submitting just fine, and 1.2.3.70 is successfully submitting scores for Tendry's Tale. Very peculiar.

I can guarantee that it was definitely submitting scores back in 1.2.1.57, although they were ultimately be rejected by the spider anyway.

EDIT: The 'Neatherhood is my own hold, so perhaps this could be a problem? I'm using the same CaravelNet profile in 1.2.3.70 that made the hold, but I'm not doing so in the Steam beta. Actually, let me try importing this profile into the Steam beta and see what happens.

EDIT 2: OK, importing the other profile into the Steam beta causes submissions to work, but now that profile is not accepting numpad keyboard inputs. I'll post a thread about this in the Steam beta bug forum. The no-submission bug appears to be local to my 1.2.3.70 install.

EDIT 3: I exported my profile from the Steam beta, where the score submission was working, and imported it into 1.2.3.70. Using that profile the score submission is NOT working. Therefore this appears to be specifically 1.2.3.70 that is causing the issue, not just that particular player profile.

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01-05-2016 at 09:33 PM
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Hmm...if I understand you correctly, the 1.2.3.x Steam beta is submitting scores correctly, but the non-Steam build for 1.2.3.x is not?

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It appears to be that way for me, yes, only the non-Steam version.

I'd like to test other user-made holds in non-Steam 1.2.3.70 first when I have the time to play a bunch of them to their first scorepoint to test if this is some strange fluke with this particular hold or if there are multiple user holds it is happening too. Might help reveal a bit more about what is going on, probably.

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01-06-2016 at 09:10 PM
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I'll try to provide a current non-Steam patch by tomorrow so you can help test this out.

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For what it might be worth, I have tested two other user holds (Castle Repton and Ten-minutes distraction) and score submissions have worked absolutely fine.

I'm thinking with the other issues that The 'Neatherhood has (no score verification, no room images, failing to tell the server when the ending level has been explored so it will appear in H&S etc.) that this is just another strange issue exclusive to this hold because as far as I know there should be nothing about 1.2.3.70 that should cause score submissions to be different to the Steam beta. Makes me wonder if something about the hold has corrputed or something.

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01-07-2016 at 09:02 PM
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Since that is your hold - are you sure you're using the exact hold that was uploaded? You haven't inadvertently edited yours?

The room images seem to be fine, but if it's not tracking progress for you or verifying score points, the version you have installed being different might account for those issues.

How far is it to the first score point? I am terrible at RPG but if you give me a quick walkthrough to get to the first scorepoint I'll give it a shot and can try to better debug it.

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01-10-2016 at 04:14 AM
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Well Schik it seems that accidentally editing the hold may well be the culprit. I believed that that was not the case but I deleted the hold and redownloaded it from CaravelNet and now the first scorepoint has submitted! It still got rejected by the spider, but hey, progress!

This would probably also explain why the submission worked fine on the Steam version, as the copy of the hold there I had just downloaded from CaravelNet.

I can also confirm that I can now see the room images on H&S. I'll have to play through the hold again to see if it's successfully able to track that I've visited the ending level as that still doesn't show up on the level dropdown.

Here's a quick walkthrough to get you to the first scorepoint as fast as possible:
Press No to skip opening cutscene
1N: kill spider, get yellow key
2N: get small potion
2N1W: Open yellow door, get 8 small potions
1N2W: Kill wraithwing, get medium potion, atk gem, yellow key, large potion
2N2W: Get green key and large potion, spend yellow key on atk gem and 2 small potions
4N1W: Open green door, kill guard


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01-10-2016 at 10:18 AM
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Hrm. It errors out because it can't find a scorepoint. Beyond that I think I have to defer to Mike on what's going on here and how to fix it...

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01-10-2016 at 03:36 PM
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Thanks for investigating, Matt.
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Hrm. It errors out because it can't find a scorepoint.
I'm not understanding what this means. Can you rephrase?

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Sure. The "Test" function that tests the validity of a demo returns that the demo was successfully validated, but does not return any score point information.

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Ah, got it. Thanks! What game version are you using for spider verification in this instance?

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I updated it to the latest in the repository as of the time I posted, but it was also a problem (presumably the same problem) in the last release.

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Wow, weird. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this from my end. Any ideas?

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icon Re: 1.2.3.70 not submitting highscores for The 'Neatherhood user hold (0)  
So given that nobody has ever been able to figure out why every score submission to this hold gets rejected, I figured it might be worth resaving the hold under a new profile just incase there was something weird going on with the hold.

So here's a different version of the hold. I'm wondering if it's worth trying to just replace the copy on the server and that the spider has with this one, just to see if it fixes the issue. Its not like there are any pre-existing scores to worry about anyway.

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