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But I'd rather have a tasty piece of pie.

Pie is good. Mmm, pie.

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But the whole of pi is infinitely long.

yes, I know it's bad... shoot me now somebody...

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But 3.15 is larger than pi.


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But it's much more fun to impress people by memorizing 3.1415926535897932384626433832799502884197169399.

I don't know why I never have forgotten that.

[Edited by The_Red_Hawk at Local Time:10-04-2004 at 07:41 PM]

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But it's not so impressive if someone realizes some of the digits are wrong.

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But DROD is impressive ;)

This might be a dead end... what is better than DROD?

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mrimer wrote:
But it's not so impressive if someone realizes some of the digits are wrong.
Gah, you stole mine...

But e is even longer!

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Oops - I don't know why, but every time I write it, it doesn't work. It's fine when I'm saying it out loud. :(

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But e, i, and pi together can accomplish more.

e^(i*pi)+1=0

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But O is wider than 0

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But "O" (or any other circle we can draw) is just an approximation of the true circle.

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But a compass(Mathamatical one, BTW) dan draw a perfect circle.

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But a clock can have more hands :lol

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gamer_extreme_101 wrote:
But a compass(Mathamatical one, BTW) dan draw a perfect circle.

Really? I'll bet you anything that it can't. :)

No physical instrument can draw/detect a perfect circle - it has an infinitely smooth curve.

Oops. Someone got one in first.

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But a clock's rate of time measurement (and time itself) is affected by gravity.

[Edited by agaricus5 at Local Time:10-05-2004 at 01:09 AM]

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But gravity is affected by:

1. Distance from the object.
2. Rate of acceleration/deceleration.
3. The fluid it's immersed in.
4. The mass of the object.

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But (some types of) astrology are affected by the phase of the moon.

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The_Red_Hawk wrote:
But gravity is affected by:

1. Distance from the object.

True. The gravitational force between two objects is a function of the distance between them. F = GmM/r^2, where G is the gravitational constant, m is the mass of the object we are looking at, M is the mass of the object "supplying" the gravity, and r is the distance between them. Since F = ma (force = mass times acceleration, Newton's 3rd Law I think), we typically definte g = GM/r^2 as the "gravitational acceleration".

2. Rate of acceleration/deceleration.

False. Gravity is an acceleration. The force of gravity on an object is that object's mass multiplied by the gravitational acceleration on it. If there are other forces acting on the object, then the total acceleration will not be just due to gravity. But the gravitational force itself is not affected.

I suppose you might be able to make some argument about an object exerting a gravitational force while it is accelerating away from you...but that does not seem to be what you are saying.

3. The fluid it's immersed in.

False. An object immersed in a liquid feels the exact same force of gravity than one not immersed in the liquid. It's just that in the liquid, there are buoyant forces which act to "slow" the object's rate of descent. It's the same as air resistance, the force of gravity is the same, but another force is added in the opposite direction. So the total force is different, as well as the total acceleration...but gravity is unaffected.

4. The mass of the object.

Could be true or false, depending on what object you are referring to. The gravitational acceleration that the Earth imparts on us does depend on the mass of the Earth, but it doesn't depend on our mass. The force that is applied to us, though, does depend on our masses. (See the equations in #1.) This is why objects fall at the exact same speed no matter how much their mass is (since their acceleration is exactly the same, that due to gravity), but if they were to hit something the more massive object would do much more damage (since the force the object would exert would depend on the mass of the object).

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But my time machine means I can go back in time and post this again!

But my time machine means I can go back in time and post this again!

But my time machine means I can go back in time and post this again!

But my time machine means I can go back in time and post this again!
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But a coffee machine is essential in getting me up in the morning.

(Not really, by the way, I rarely drink coffee. But I know a lot of people for which the above statement is true)

[Edited by eytanz at Local Time:10-05-2004 at 01:23 PM]

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But a coffee machine won't work without electricity.

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But the strong nuclear force is stronger than electricity.

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2 and 3 are true, according to the science textbook which I looked it up in.

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but 0 is false according to Binary
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The_Red_Hawk wrote:
2 and 3 are true, according to the science textbook which I looked it up in.

Either the book is wrong, or your interpretation of what the book says is wrong.

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It's not that gravity itself is changed - it's that the amount gravity affects the object is changed.

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The_Red_Hawk wrote:
It's not that gravity itself is changed - it's that the amount gravity affects the object is changed.
No, gravity still affects it the same amount, othere forces are just counter-acting some of it. That wasn't what you said in your first post anyway.
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But gravity is affected by:
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You don't understand, Hawk...gravity itself doesn't change like that. It's the sum of all the forces on an object that determines how it moves. When an object is immersed in a liquid, that liquid exerts its own forces on that object. So it "seems" like gravity is slowed down, but that's just because of inaccurate understanding of what gravity really is.

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But this is turning more confusing than a physics lesson!

And gravity is a force. That's all I'm saying.
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But you can do more things with the Force than with gravity.

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But you can do even more things with electrostatics!
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