Mikko
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Here's a level from a new hold that I'm making. I'm planning on making several levels and this will probably not be the first one, so there are no story elements yet. I just want to test the puzzles.

vAmpir
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OK, just few words about the rooms:

In general the hold is hard, I don’t think you need another levels

1N1W: OK. One have to be very precise in every single move.

1S1E: Very funny room and very clever made.

1S1W: I was really mad until I found how to beat it. A little bit of boring but OK.

1S: My favorite room. I never believed that this works.

1W, 1N and 1E: I don’t have any idea how to make these! I will be very thankful if you PM me some hints about them and especially for 1W.

agaricus5
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vAmpir wrote:
1W, 1N and 1E: I don’t have any idea how to make these! I will be very thankful if you PM me some hints about them and especially for 1W.

1W is actually not that difficult.



Apart from that I've had a glance at some of the rooms, but 1E looks very intriguing. I have an inkling about what the solution is, but it looks extremely specific.

So far the hold appears challenging, but interesting.

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Scott
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I've had a quick look only but can't work out how to do any of the rooms yet.

RoboBob3000
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1E has had me stumped for quite a while. I've figured out all the other rooms, and I have to say that they're all great! I'm a fan of simplistic rooms like the ones in this hold.

But anyhow, a small hint for 1E would be appreciated. I'm starting to go crazy here.

[Edited by RoboBob3000 on 08-13-2004 at 04:12 AM GMT]

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vAmpir
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agaricus5 wrote:

1W is actually not that difficult.

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×Since the growth of this particular tar blob is always going to leave you a 2*2 blob when you try to cut it, you need to obstruct the growth (literally) in some way. However, since you can't actually do it directly, what is there in the room that could?

Actually I knew what to do in 1W but was hard for me to realize. Anyway, I’ve just did it and now I look for possible solution for 1E. I think this is the hardest room in this hold.

Mikko
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Appearantly there is more than one way to do 1W. I mightto stop an unintended one, or then I'll just let things stay like they are as it isn't that obvious anyway IMO.

I've also found some flaws in 1E1S and have changed the room for the next version.

In 1E it is best to work out the solution backwards, starting with the move that puts the roach in the corner. It is also useful to know how a roach behaves when it cannot move diagonally.

vAmpir
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Mikko wrote:

In 1E it is best to work out the solution backwards, starting with the move that puts the roach in the corner. It is also useful to know how a roach behaves when it cannot move diagonally.

Honestly, that don’t helps me much.

Mikko
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Here's a proper hint for 1E:

Tim
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Hi,

I find the puzzles interesting, sounds like that most of the puzzles are based on minimalistic and precise timing.

Quick words about the rooms:

1N1W, 1N, 1N1E : I finished them on my first try... But that's probably because I wanted to use them as puzzles as well Oh well, I can probably think up somethink else
1W : I think I get the trick now, so i'll do this one later.
1S1E : I lost my concentration half way the second row (even though I know how to solve it).
1S : That one was fun. I never knew beethro can do it that way.
1S1W : I will think about it later, but not bad.
1E : I'm not sure how to
Some suggestions I want to make:
* Can you please add some save points? Especially at 1S1E?
* You might want to theme your timing puzzles in one level, and the non-timing puzzles in another.
* Did I already tell you that you do have some great puzzles in there?

(Playing other people's hold instead of finialising Simplicity. How could I!)

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RoboBob3000
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I've FINALLY completed 1E. I've been on and off with it for more than a week now, totally frustrated by it, but still compelled by its apparent simplicity. Now that I'm done, I'm a little annoyed at myself to have spent so much time going about it in a completely incorrect manner.

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Pinnacle
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I assume you play Commander Keen?

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