kyevan
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DROD RPG is not happy on my iBook G4 running OS X 10.4.11. It freezes at random times, and I can't get out of it - DROD RPG seems to somehow break cmd-opt-esc!

And then even when I do get out, when I restart it, I have to start over from the beginning of the level

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I'm sorry to hear about this. I'd like to fix this problem. If you find a way to start up the game and then make it crash reliably, then you could give me your .dat files and I should be able to make the same thing happen on my end, and then fix it.

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kyevan
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Yeah, the annoying part is that it doesn't crash reliably. Or at all, since if it actually crashed, I could at least paste the crash log...

I noticed that when I tried to remove it (just to see if it was a bad download, or something) OS X thinks libcurl is still in use. What was libcurl even used for in the first place? (I have CNet off) That was actually Finder being a dork and telling me it was in use, when actually it was buried in a set of directories set 555.

(Also, we REALLY need something that does <strike>...</strike> (or, if you like semantics, <delete>...</delete>. Most browsers render them the same anyway.)

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You mean like strike?

s, /s.

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Sorry to bump this old thread, but has this bug been fixed in the actual game? I finished the demo (eventually) on my MacBook Pro
(core duo 2.16GHz, 2GB, 10.5.5) but it must have crashed at least 20 times during the levels of the demo... I have yet to find a reliable was to make it crash, but it does crash often...

I'm reluctant to buy the full game if the bug is still there...

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smiteo wrote:
Sorry to bump this old thread, but has this bug been fixed in the actual game? I finished the demo (eventually) on my MacBook Pro
(core duo 2.16GHz, 2GB, 10.5.5) but it must have crashed at least 20 times during the levels of the demo... I have yet to find a reliable was to make it crash, but it does crash often...

I'm reluctant to buy the full game if the bug is still there...

If you're experiencing this in the 1.0 demo, then whatever it is will probably affect you in the full version too. Since I haven't heard complaints from the OS X community at large, it's quite possible the freezes are a symptom of a specific bug that affects your MacBook or the way you use your system is used. I'd recommend waiting until version 1.1 comes out, then getting the 1.1 demo and seeing if the problem has gone away. Sorry I can't be more specific at this point -- I don't have a MacBook to troubleshoot on.

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DROD-RPG did inexplicably crash my Mac (10.4.11) a couple of times while I was playing the demo, but the full version has been solid so far.

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I downloaded RPG a day or two, and it often crashes while I'm playing.

It's version 1.1.0.54.

There were no beeps before crashing. There are no *.err files anywhere. I don't think it has a chance to write a crash log; the system freezes, stops accepting keystrokes, and eventually puts up the spinning pizza cursor. I have to get the OS's attention in order to kill it most of the time. Occasionally it crashes on its own.

I'm using the full version.

The best I can do for a cause is that it often seems to happen after I bump into a wall, but I wouldn't say that that's always true.

Not realizing that I had RPG, I originally asked this question on the non-RPG side and kwakstur asked how big the .dat files are. There's just one:

-r--r--r-- 1 - 112627715 Nov 1 08:30 drodrpg1_0.dat

Any ideas?

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DROD's source code is filled with calls to a function called ASSERT that checks for and logs (with a beep) any potentially problematic conditions before performing actions that could get glitchy.
So a crash is usually preceded by one or more "assertion errors", as long as the game recognizes the cause. The game always would get a chance to log anything it knows to check for before the crash.

But the game is hanging, not crashing... and a lack of errors really is no help.

I usually jump into these Bug topics and try to help pinpoint the problem (to the best of my ability), but I'm stumped here. Could it just simply be that OS X 10.5.5 is incompatible with RPG?

When you bump into a wall, nothing too notable happens. A sound is played, and the graphics for the wall are nudged forward 1 pixel. Everything else would happen no matter what move you made. And I don't see how the game could fall into an infinite loop... Bumping walls is at best only an indirect cause of the game locking up.


About the stuff I asked before, your drodrpg1_0.dat is the right size for Full version. I think that on Macs the other .dats are put in another, hidden directory... one that you can only reach by Right-Clicking on the executable. If they're not there (there should be 6), or if they have filesizes of 0, then maybe one of my suspicions is confirmed: The game won't save. I don't know what you should do about it, though...

Meh, I tried.

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Tanstaafl
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I'm a Unix hacker from way back. Hidden directories aren't hidden, they just need different "ls" options.

That's the only .dat around. I'll try installing under my account instead of in /Applications.

Thanks.

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Kwakstur wrote:
But the game is hanging, not crashing...

Not quite...

Tanstaafl wrote:
Occasionally it crashes on its own.

Kwakstur wrote:
I think that on Macs the other .dats are put in another, hidden directory... one that you can only reach by Right-Clicking on the executable. If they're not there (there should be 6), or if they have filesizes of 0, then maybe one of my suspicions is confirmed: The game won't save.

The file path for OS X is:

/Users/[nameofyourhomefolder]/Library/Application Support/Caravel/drodrpg-1_0

All six .dat files should be present (along with file sizes that aren't zero).

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No better. Still freezes randomly. Mostly after running into a wall. (regardless of what's not possible.) I'm still trying it.

There aren't any .err files and only one .dat. It seems to be saving checkpoints somewhere though, since I can restart from saved checkpoints I created by hitting <save> or ones that were saved automatically. I don't know where they're getting saved though, unless it's in the one .dat file.

Does that give you any clues?

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Tanstaafl wrote:
I don't know where they're getting saved though, unless it's in the one .dat file.

Nope, what makes drodrpg1_0.dat different from the others is that it isn't save data. It is only loaded from. drodrpg1_0.dat contains most of the media in DROD; the room styles, the music, and I think even the title hold (Tendry's Tale). Probably the biggest difference between Demo and Full version is that the one for full version is 60 MB bigger.

EDIT: I see you have them. So saving isn't the problem.
I give up.



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37: cd drodrpg-1_0/
38: ll -aR

total 648
drwxr-xr-x 13 chris chris - 442 Jan 3 23:17 ./
drwxr-xr-x 3 chris chris - 102 Jan 2 18:11 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris - 112 Jan 3 12:40 DataPath.txt
drwxr-xr-x 2 chris chris - 68 Jan 2 18:11 Homemade/
drwxr-xr-x 2 chris chris - 68 Jan 2 18:11 L10n/
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris - 2238 Jan 2 18:11 data.dat
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris - 4273 Jan 3 23:17 drodrpg.ini
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris - 5 Jan 3 23:17 drodrpg.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris - 2238 Jan 2 18:11 hold.dat
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris - 8860 Jan 3 23:25 player.dat
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris - 241398 Jan 3 23:25 save.dat
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris - 42314 Jan 3 23:25 savemoves.dat
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris - 6724 Jan 3 12:23 text.dat

./Homemade:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 chris chris - 68 Jan 2 18:11 ./
drwxr-xr-x 13 chris chris - 442 Jan 3 23:17 ../

./L10n:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 chris chris - 68 Jan 2 18:11 ./
drwxr-xr-x 13 chris chris - 442 Jan 3 23:17 ../

Lamkin
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I still think Leopard is to blame.

mrimer
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I haven't tried running any DROD games on Leopard myself, so I don't know whether the game will run there or not. You might try running the game with the "nosound" command line argument to see if sound drivers are to blame.

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Gandalf the Grey. That was my name.
I am Gandalf the White.
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