Voidy
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I have a thing for spawning monsters and their offsprings, so here's my idea for a new adversary I will refer to as..ahem..Deadsy

Now, your average Deadsy behaves like an ordinary roach or brained roach or golem. When killed, it leaves a pile of bones on the ground. The bones don't try to grab Beethro by his ankle or block his passage, but when the clock strikes twelve (or thirty) they rise as Deadsies again.

The player does not probably need to kill all Deadsies in the room to clear it. Or if he does, there should be another monster that is responsible for raising Deadsies. Also, if killing necromancer is not obligatory, there are vast possibilities for timed puzzles.

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Maurog
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I like this idea in its original form of leaving bones behind and rising back at 30. The only suggestion I have is that "Deadsies" treat bones like obstacles (maybe with the exception of killing Beethro standing on bones like seeps), because otherwise it becomes too complicated.

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I thought that bones are impassable...

Also these bones must be (edit: visually) different from the existing 'bones' obstacle.

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Voidy
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Maurog wrote:
The only suggestion I have is that "Deadsies" treat bones like obstacles (maybe with the exception of killing Beethro standing on bones like seeps), because otherwise it becomes too complicated.

Agreed. I can't think of a way to handle several Deadsies dying on the same square.

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This would be, perhaps, silly, but I'm going to go with it.

Perhaps, to kill all Deadsies, you first have to combine them. That is, make their bones appear in one square, so when they respawn, there are fewer Deadsies. To fully kill, you must prevent them from spawning on turn 30. By monster on bones, self on bones, sword on bones, etc. If that happens, the monster dies.

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zex20913 wrote:
This would be, perhaps, silly, but I'm going to go with it.

Perhaps, to kill all Deadsies, you first have to combine them. That is, make their bones appear in one square, so when they respawn, there are fewer Deadsies. To fully kill, you must prevent them from spawning on turn 30. By monster on bones, self on bones, sword on bones, etc. If that happens, the monster dies.

I like the necromancer idea. If you stop them from resurrecting by something standing on it, the just don't resurrect - they wait another 30th turn. However, I like the idea about removing a deadsie by killing it on bones.

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zex20913 wrote:
Perhaps, to kill all Deadsies, you first have to combine them. That is, make their bones appear in one square, so when they respawn, there are fewer Deadsies. To fully kill, you must prevent them from spawning on turn 30. By monster on bones, self on bones, sword on bones, etc. If that happens, the monster dies.

Does the game backend even allow two monsters/NPCs/players in the same tile? If not this probably would require a bigger code change...

np: Contriva - Before (Separate Chambers)

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Cool FR.

Briareos wrote:

zex20913 wrote:
Perhaps, to kill all Deadsies, you first have to combine them. That is, make their bones appear in one square, so when they respawn, there are fewer Deadsies. To fully kill, you must prevent them from spawning on turn 30. By monster on bones, self on bones, sword on bones, etc. If that happens, the monster dies.

Does the game backend even allow two monsters/NPCs/players in the same tile? If not this probably would require a bigger code change...

Two active monsters cannot physically occupy the same tile simultaneously, but the code doesn't have any problem with non-obstacle-type monsters overlapping, like invisible NPCs. I'd guess the same could go for these deadsies if they're not an obstacle. So far, I like the idea of getting rid of deadsies by killing them on an existing bone pile too.

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The arrow next to the topic... does this mean it's confirmed for TSS (or 3.3)?

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Pinnacle wrote:
The arrow next to the topic... does this mean it's confirmed for TSS (or 3.3)?

Nah, but it does mean I'm reminding myself to consider the puzzle aspects of this FR as new puzzle elements get added. I like them, but they may ultimately show up in a modified form.

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