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On looking, I'm also quite interested to find this bug has returned:



Remember this one, Erik, in builds 4 and 5?

Rather horrible, wasn't it?

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You do know that "phoenix" is misspelled all the way through that, right?

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It all depends on who's where. I think.

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Some more interesting uncoverances:






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That was I believe an example. But yes, is essentially guaranteed. Unless Eric finds a clever way to make it without really making it...

I'm shutting up now. Don't want the dev team to think of any more plot twists.

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masonjason wrote:
But maybe you're a hallucination as well!
EDIT: I've just realised that that would mean that no version of DROD has ever existed! Which means that this forum doesn't exist either! Which means that I've wasted 111 posts' worth of my time staring at a blank screen!

This reminds me way too much of A Beautiful Mind. That said, I think I'm gonna go and work some more on DROD. After all, I know my work is gonna save the world from the imminent extra-terrestrial invasion...

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masonjason wrote:

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We shouldn't have any tile types that will hide things behind them (against the DROD spirit).

So will they remove Tar, for example?

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Nillo wrote:
So will they remove Tar, for example?

Not a tile type, it's an obstacle. Tile types are wall, floor, pit, trapdoor, door, exit...

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Each style will have three moods: ambient, attack, puzzle. A mood will specify one or more filenames of songs to play. If multiple songs are specified then the songs selected to play will go in sequence. By default, mood will be "ambient" until the player enters an unconquered room. Some kind of analysis will be performed on entry to determine if mood should change to "attack" or "puzzle" mood. A rule like "if there are more than 50 monsters in the room, use attack mood, else use puzzle mood" can be used, but you want to account for things like maybe the room begins with 10 roach queens, and they will shortly turn the room into a slashfest.

Has this been finalized yet, Erik?

Will it make my older DROD Scores redundant, or should I tweak them around a bit?

I realize you did warn me about this problem, but I obviously forgot until now....

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Has this been finalized yet, Erik?

No, it hasn't.

Will it make my older DROD Scores redundant, or should I tweak them around a bit?

It should be possible to customize DROD later to use your scores, but it's really too early to get into details about it. If you are interested, I'd recommend asking again around the time we announce beta (several months away).

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I know I'm probably missing something but what will the beta consist of? Will we get a small hold featuring all (or many) of the old and new elements? Will we get a section of Rooted Hold? Or will it be a repopulated Dugan's with new monsters and stuff?

Or do you not know yet and will simply recite the Architect's Oath until I go away?

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joker5 wrote:
I know I'm probably missing something but what will the beta consist of? Will we get a small hold featuring all (or many) of the old and new elements? Will we get a section of Rooted Hold? Or will it be a repopulated Dugan's with new monsters and stuff?

You'll have to wait and see, Mr. Joker.

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Yessir. In the meantime I'll continue to pry at the many secret and not-so-secret surprises of 1.7.

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In this old thread, Erik says that the next version of DROD will come with "a smaller hold to get your feet wet".

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I was actually talking with him in PM recently, and he told me he's going to use Bad Evil Restaurant.

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Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!

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ErikH2000 wrote:

agaricus5 wrote:
Has this been finalized yet, Erik?

No, it hasn't.

Will it make my older DROD Scores redundant, or should I tweak them around a bit?

It should be possible to customize DROD later to use your scores, but it's really too early to get into details about it. If you are interested, I'd recommend asking again around the time we announce beta (several months away).

-Erik

Ah, but...

I'm currently composing (I do it when I feel like it) and so if changes need to be made to music playing style, especially if the music we are going for is no longer conventional but reacting to gameplay, then I may need to start thinking about composition style as what I've got may not be usable to cover several themes at the same time. If it's too off-topic for the thread, as I'm sure it is, could you send me an e-mail to start a discussion on this?

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Hm... it seems a few people have been viewing this thread... it looks like we've got ourselves an official Red Herring.

I'm certain that this is FAKE. This means this will NOT be in 1.7 (unless Erik has a perverse sense of humor):

Task Summary:
BUG: Puppies don't attack Beethro once all the ketchup is gone
Original Comment:
When the tar babies have merged with all the ketchup, puppies stop attacking Beethro. The puppies should continue to hound Beethro even without ketchup to eat.

This has got to be the strangest bug report I've ever seen.

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Mmmm, you never know. Ketchup is a tar-like material and there are enemies called puppies which are somehow connected with, but can exist independently of, the ketchup. Tar babies can eat the ketchup (babies like ketchup). Sounds fun.

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Yeah, but it doesn't seem DRODlike. More likely is the fact that someone read this thread and decided he'd like a funny bug report posted.

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I know. I was joking too. Although it would be cool to have a secret ketchup and puppies level in Rooted Hold.

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Yeah, it's probably fake, but it would be neat. It made me laugh to read the latest development in this thread.

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Kudos to whoever posted that. Will the fake bug author please stand up?

Yes, I'm horrible.

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Ah! That's right...you guys are relatively new.

The Ketchup and Puppies was something that was discussed early on in one of the boards, I forget which. It escalated until I built a hold entitled Ketchup and Puppies, which is a fun 2 minutes.

Every once in a while, somebody brings them up again.

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No, no, ketchup and puppies are in.

Let me go and grab a screenshot for you... the puppies are stub graphics right at the moment.

Edit: here we are, ketchup and puppies.



The ketchup cannot be cut - it's essentially nuisance stuff until you hit a red orb, which stops it and makes it shift. You then have to force it off a cliff to get rid of it.

The puppies are too cute to kill, but will wander off cliffs. So you have to get a pit between you and them.

Also, it occurs to me that maybe the best way to make sure we don't notice is to not post it on the forums where we can see it.

I am Mattcrampy, master of scheduling!

Edit again: What the...? Who did that?

Matt

[Edited by Mattcrampy on 02-23-2004 at 12:31 PM GMT]

[Edited by Mattcrampy on 02-24-2004 at 01:03 AM GMT]

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I know about the ketchup and puppies hold. And the ketchup looks like a pallet-swapped tar. The background looks authentic though. I'm keeping that picture

Anyway, your story's full of holes The report was that puppies eat ketchup and stop hounding Beethro. You didn't mention the hounding, or the eating.

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Okay, okay, I faked it. You caught me.

Or did I?

Mwahahahaha!

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That's why I love this forum(besides the holds). The atmosphere of fun and the people. Anyway, now I've got an authentic background, and that's gotta be worth something. Unless you suddenly deside that's not cool and remove that pattern/color from 1.7. Or you faked that too, which I doubt.

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And red orbs will, if anything, be probably used for trapdoors.

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How will they be used? "Drop all trapdoors" style?

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