Alneyan
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I've decided to have a go at Fun Park again. Alas, there remains one obstacle in my way: the hold makes heavy use of custom images, instead of proper floors like they used to make them, back in those days where the world was such a better place to live in and...

So. Those particular images make my eyes go watery faster than you can say "Taal be cursed for those wicked Architects' shenanigans", and it's kind of hard playing DROD blindfolded. Hence my request: is there a nice and easy way to get rid of custom images, regardless of the wishes, whims and demands of the architect?

(I'm not exactly familiar with the way DROD handles graphics, so that question might be very naïve. If so, feel free to laught me out of existence... or write a ncurses-based DROD backend for me. Whichever you choose.)

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Alneyan wrote:
is there a nice and easy way to get rid of custom images, regardless of the wishes, whims and demands of the architect?

Mmm...no, sorry.

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I suppose that leaves the not-nice and not-easy way. Do you think a quick-and-dirty hack could be made to the DROD engine to bypass custom images? (Something like a lone specialised function called to handle custom images, perhaps, but I doubt it's the case.)

Of course, I have little knowledge of the mass of Cee-Plus-Plus that lies behind DROD. Still, if there is *some* possibility of achieving that without having to refactor the whole project, I'll probably give it a try and toy with other kludges... erh, features at the same time.

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I would think it would be easier to hack into the hold file and remove the images.

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Or if you want an edit by anyone copy just ask and I can make a copy. Not sure what you'd do for high scores though..

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Having a "clean" Fun Park could be useful indeed. As for the highscores, I think I can work out something about the demos on my end... X macros and all that.

I'm lax to do some hexa-editing on a .hold file, partly because it might confuse and anger the architect, partly because I'm no hexa guru, and partly because it's not a general solution.

I wonder if I should shudder in fear when I think about those DROD 3.0 features involving CaravelNet and graphics, though. Perhaps I'm fighting a rear-guard action that'll be dashed as soon as TCB is out.

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File: Fun Park alneyan.hold (541 KB)
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License: Public Domain

Hope this helps..

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Alneyan wrote:
I suppose that leaves the not-nice and not-easy way. Do you think a quick-and-dirty hack could be made to the DROD engine to bypass custom images? (Something like a lone specialised function called to handle custom images, perhaps, but I doubt it's the case.)

That's right. If you can compile your own version of DROD, then it's pretty trivial to tweak the room rendering so that custom floor images don't show up.

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Here's what diff had to say (applied to RoomWidget.cpp):

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<                                               case T_FLOOR_IMAGE: wTextureIndex =
<                                                               g_pTheDBM->pTextures[FLOOR_IMAGE] ? FLOOR_IMAGE : FLOOR_MOSAIC;
---
>                                               case T_FLOOR_IMAGE: wTextureIndex = FLOOR_MOSAIC;
>                                                               // g_pTheDBM->pTextures[FLOOR_IMAGE] ? FLOOR_IMAGE : FLOOR_MOSAIC;

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coppro wrote:
Here's what diff had to say (applied to RoomWidget.cpp):

Yep, that's exactly right! In fact, I was working on this bit of code just yesterday. Custom floor images in 3.0 will now support transparency.

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mrimer wrote:Yep, that's exactly right! In fact, I was working on this bit of code just yesterday. Custom floor images in 3.0 will now support transparency.

Good Grief! You really have taken the cork out of the feature tap.

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So then what goes beneath it? Regular floor?

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coppro wrote:
So then what goes beneath it? Regular floor?

It's elephants and turtles all the way down.

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Oh, I was expecting it to at least be ketchup and puppies. But I supposed a new in-joke would be good.

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coppro wrote:
Oh, I was expecting it to at least be ketchup and puppies. But I supposed a new in-joke would be good.

What about mustard and kittens!!! Please, think of the Kittens!

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mrimer wrote:

coppro wrote:
So then what goes beneath it? Regular floor?

It's elephants and turtles all the way down.

Wait... since when is the Eighth located on Discworld?

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Briareos wrote:

mrimer wrote:

coppro wrote:
So then what goes beneath it? Regular floor?

It's elephants and turtles all the way down.

Wait... since when is the Eighth located on Discworld?

Good eye. I believe the Eighth is actually supported by a one-armed octopus.

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AlefBet wrote:
Good eye. I believe the Eighth is actually supported by a one-armed octopus.

An unipus ? Or maybe just pus .. puss .. Kitten!

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Okay, thanks for the answers everyone. Given how boring a "hey, I wanna do X" thread is, I choose to consider your interest as a sign that I'm popular *and* a great chap. That should go without saying, but you can never be too careful.

I'll fudge with the DROD source when I feel like banging my head against a wall. At present, I've had this masochistic urge filled with xterm+screen+emacs running in utf-8 with 256 colours, so I guess it'll have to wait. Until then... it's not as if I didn't have a hundred holds on my plate.