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Anyone have Wii friend codes they want to share? There's nothing to do with them yet except send messages to each other.
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Wii friend codes? Maybe...as soon as I get the wireless up and running for it.

Hopping in to say that I've beaten Zelda, though I still have some items to collect. I won't say which, because that's spoilers. But yes, I loved it, especially the boss battles.

Now to improve my gametime on it! Currently beaten in: 43:51.

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I have a question about what to do right now in Zelda if you don't mind. Gamefaqs is a pit of people asking for help and it's kind of hard to get yourself heard. Should I ask in the thread, or a PM?
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PM is fine...or Larry just started a question thread for it.

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I envy you Zelda-owning people with the heat of a thousand suns.

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I envy you Zelda-owning people with the heat of a thousand suns.
I lined up for a Wii on Saturday, but the Wal-mart that earlier stated they had 27 units in layaway at that time inexplicably said later they really only have 20. (Shifty dealings, anyone?) So I didn't get a Wii...but I do have Zelda :D :?

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Just want to let all who are interested that this morning I was in the third dungeon, and tonight as I go to bed I am in the seventh. I really liked that sixth dungeon's boss. Bit of a blast from the past. I also have some favorite characters now. Ooccoo, and the guy who runs the cannon.

Just in case anyone wanted to know. Not that anyone really does. :?
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I liked all of the bosses. The sixth was actually further down on my list of fun-boss-ness, which I will probably post at some point.

Also, I think a request should be made to have Zelda adopt something from Kirby--have an area where you can fight all of the bosses in one go. Maybe it's somewhere, but I haven't found it yet.

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What is the difficulty like compared to Ocarina and Wind Waker?

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Fighting enemies is harder than Ocarina or Wind Waker ever was due to the new sword fighting system, and the puzzles and dungeons are bigger but easier than Ocarina's.

One of the things that struck me as odd is that the story isn't as epic as Ocarina, but it adds to it with stories for each NPC sort of like Majora's Mask.

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I thought that the sword-fighting system was pretty easy actually. I only had to do more than wave the Wiimote on a few enemies (and bosses.) That sentence should make sense. But the accuracy combat is really fun with the Wiimote. I think on the Gamecube, it'll be the other way around, mainly because there isn't a one-to-one correspondence between waving the Wiimote and swinging the sword.

The story is much darker than any previous Zelda game, though, and I like that. The characters seemed a bit...disjoint. I'm not sure what I think of them yet, and I think there was some flawless consistency going on.

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I loved the bossfights though. In subjective order of fun--(Also notes how many dungeons there are--you are warned.)

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It's also hard to compare difficulty, because having played through Ocarina and Wind Waker, I found Twilight Princess easier. I think if I had played from scratch, TP would have been the hardest, but I can't say for sure.

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Could we possibly move this over to a seperate thread? For once I'm actually trying to keep myself from opening those tantalizing secret tags - I accidentally opened one in the hints thread, and there goes a perfectly good puzzle. Since there are some who would wish to discuss something about the Wii other than LoZ, I would ask you to use a different thread.

Thanks.
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I wanted a Wii. After missing out on launch night at Wal-mart, I heard how more Wii units would come up for sale in stores on Black Friday (the day after Thanksgiving in the US, when the Christmas shopping season "officially" begins). My brother found out the EB Games at the local shopping mall would be getting eight whole systems. We decided to line up after family Thanksgiving festivities wound down to each get a Wii first thing in the morning. The store was to open at six this special sales day. That meant, of course, that everyone would plan to come at 3-4 in the morning to get a priority spot in line for the Wii. And since everyone was thinking they should do that, it surely meant that we must go the night before if there was to be any chance of us even thinking about getting one before they were all sold out.

The mall was closed Thursday, but we went in at 10pm, entering through the doors open to provide access to the movie theater inside. We skipped the theater and strolled over to the EB Games store and hunkered down outside it. No one was there (duh, the mall was closed). Thursday, the weather suddenly had gotten cold, so we were very glad to be inside instead of having to wait outside all night. After waiting for a while, we decided to check whether anyone was waiting outside anyway. There were eight people that had just sat down out there with chairs, warm clothes and blankets. Nice, quiet kids. A bunch of gamers, for sure. Every one of them had a Nintendo DS or something that they were playing together. They collectively wanted six Wii units. They looked cold. We let them into the store and they lined up behind us. These guys, in contrast to many launch-week buyers, really wanted a system for themselves rather than being there to try to make a quick buck. A noble cause, if I ever heard of one. But the good news for me was it seemed I was at the front of the official line. And it was already full.

And then the security guard came by and kicked us out. My brother and I, stupidly, weren't equipped to handle standing six hours outside in the night cold. We stood for an hour or two, not daring to sit down on the frozen walk to rest our tired feet. The guys behind us were better prepared, and they were cool with me leaving for a bit to swing by my house to pick up two folding chairs, more warm clothes and a heap of blankets. That was very helpful. My brother had some games to play on his DS Lite too, but fingers froze quickly and it was too cold to play. Most of the time everyone stayed quiet and just kept their hands balled under their blankets.

After one o' clock in the morning, more people started driving by and asking what we were there for. Some lined up after us, and others sped off in disgust after realizing they wouldn't get what they wanted. Some guy in a truck peeled donuts in the parking lot as he left.

It got colder. At two, the graveyard security guy stepped out and talked to us for a bit. Bathroom opportunity for those who wanted it. Woooooo! Several people ran inside. He said maybe he could let us back in after another hour or so. I had some books to read with me but was too cold, nervous and excited to focus my attention on anything for longer than 5 seconds at a time. I sat and stared at the tranquil streetlamps around the empty parking lot and fell into a trance-like hibernation state.

By three there were twenty people in line. No security guard showed up to let us in. Muted conversations got weird and started turning to subjects like relativity and quantum physics. Some guy drove up in his pickup truck with a huge sign on the side saying "HOT COCOA MUFFINS SNACKS". He said, "You guys want some?" Sure. "How much will you pay for it?" Ah, a scalper. "Less than you want us to, no doubt," I replied. Got some chuckles. He said, "Well, all the people outside Toys-R-Us bought stuff. They were glad to have it." How hot is the hot chocolate? "It's warm." Aah...warm chocolate. Yum. How much will you give us? "12 ounce cup." Well, we're not desperate. "I gave the people at the last store a special deal -- if they all bought one, I'd give one to them for a dollar each." Ah, peer pressure tactics. Someone else piped up and said, "50 cents". The guy drove off.

Three-thirty. Wind started picking up. Had a bite to it. Thirty in line. Why are the rest of you lining up? There are only eight units. Shrugs. Some kids at the back of the line started screaming and running all over the parking lot. One of them procured a shopping cart and they started pushing each other around in it. One of them would ride in it at breakneck speed and smack straight into a curb, soaring out and practicing his rolls as he hit the ground. He rolled pretty far too. We were sure one of these times he was gonna die. Too bad no one had a video camera or there would be something on YouTube about it right now. Bunches of minivans started driving up. Frenzied moms and grandmas, no doubt. They perched silently in their vehicles, waiting.

Four o' clock. Forty people. Security guard opened the mall doors and we were allowed into the lobby. Relief! We migrated our piles of stuff through the first set of doors. But no further. Other people could go in and start lining up for a mall prize raffle being held from 5 o' clock on. Suspicious characters started mosying into the mall on the pretense of going to the raffle line, then veering over to hang out in front of the EB Games. You can imagine the muttering that caused in our line. Security guard came back to check on us, someone pointed the situation out to him, and he started periodically sending that crowd to the back of our line.

At five, Sears opened and the mall became a lively place. Lots of people everywhere. We grew increasingly nervous that we are somehow waiting in our line in vain, but we were still not permitted inside. Security guard kept making the rounds and shooing newcomers away from the store for us. Nice guy. He didn't have to help us out if he didn't want to, I guess.

Five forty. EB Games manager strolled by us and went to set up shop. FINALLY allowed to march onward to line up single-file outside the gates of EB Games. We were standing close by the queue for the raffle. A couple hundred people there. Some asked what we were doing in our line, some asked how long we had been waiting, and some heckled us. Mall personnel took pictures of us for some reason. Store manager started bringing out Wiis, games and accessories from the back room. Cat calls.

Ten minutes till. All kinds of people started showing up next to the EB Games. Some girls tried to make a new head of the line. Some acted clueless and just pretended they were waiting for friends in the raffle line and had no interest in the Wii whatsoever. However, for some unknown reason, they wouldn't budge from standing next to the front of our line. They asked us about Ebay sales a lot. Nervous tension.

Six o' clock. Store should have opened, but didn't. We waited, steadfast and meek in our places. Didn't want to annoy the store manager. In spite of this, people from the raffle line just for fun started shouting at the employees and manager in the EB Games store, "Let us in!" "It's 6 o' clock!" "Aaaauuhgghghhh!" It sounded like a mob in the making.

Store flunky comes over to raise the gate. Finally! My brother asks him, "Quick question -- we've got this line here since last night. Can you preserve order and let us maintain the line as we go in the store?" For some reason flunky said, "No, man. We just service people as they show up..." The gate started rising. Moment of shock. Picture me in one of those anime-depicted moments of shock with accompanying background coloring and sound effect.

The mob turned into a zoo. People from everywhere swarmed under the gate as it rose. The scalper girls tried to stampede into the store ahead of us. Our line battled its way up to the desk, but the newcomers pushed their way up there too and started shouting, "Hey, I'm first! I've been here since ten last night!" I pushed too, determined to hold my place. The crowd broke against the sales desk like a wave. Bodies writhed. Too loud to think. Pushy girls flailed and shoved. I shoved back to keep my spot and we smashed hard against the neat stacks of magazines, strategy guides, and store adverts arrayed across the counter. Piles fell and splashed all over the floor. Uh, oh...store manager looking seriously annoyed.

Luckily, he was a cool cucumber and just asked my brother "Whaddya want?" amidst the ruckus. He got his system, extra controller and game. Crazy girl was shrieking at me. Tall stacks of game cases fell all over the floor. I placed my order and somehow managed to get everything and swipe my card while buffetted by the writhing mass. With bag in hand, I looked behind me for the rest of the line and found numbers 3-8 somewhere lost in the crowd. I tried to assist and told the store manager of the situation before he rang up hyper claim-jumper girl. He said he was just there to sell the units but didn't complain when I suggested to get security in there to clean up the mess. Got chief security guy in there somehow and store manager relented to let the first people in line be identified. It was hard to pick them out in the middle of the mass but they were finally allowed to come forward. A crew of punky teenagers came up to me and one held out $400 in his hand. "This for your Wii" he said. Red flag. Sure, some people just want a Wii, but I've been in situations before involving Russian Mafia where deals on the side in an uncontrolled situation turned ugly. Too risky. "No way, man. You can buy it for less than that on Ebay, so why pay me $400?" They disappeared into the shadows. Line jumpers left, screaming threats and swearing a blue streak at us.

One-by-one our group was served. The eight people there from ten o' clock received their Wiis. Justice was done. We all agreed we'd never shop on Black Friday again. And we weren't taking chances. We had security escort us out of that morass to our vehicles. Got three hours of sleep at home this morning, and the rest of this vacation day has been sweet, sweet fun.

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11-25-2006 at 08:16 AM
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That was a nice reading. If you would ever write a book I'd be sure to read it :lol Oh, and congratulations for getting your Wii!
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Interesting. I can't believe that the store allowed a 'first to the counter wins' policy, if only temporary. I am also surprised that it took so much effort and waiting to get a Wii after launch date, I knew it was bad, but not that bad. It must be absolute hell for people trying to get a PS3.

Now that you have it, I have to ask, what games did you get?
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Now that you have it, I have to ask, what games did you get?
Got Zelda last Saturday night, and today my brother and I got Monkey Ball and Trauma Center. But today, surprisingly, my family and I ended up playing Wii Sports and designing Miis for 90% of the playing time. Controls and remote pointing feel great on everything I've tried so far. There's this ambient tactile rumble in the remote implemented in the Wii menu (and maybe other apps/games) that makes it feel as if you're actually running your hand across raised buttons on the screen or something as you pan your pointer over GUI buttons and stuff. Uncanny.

I have an open mind to trying Elebits and Rayman, and am generally a fan of games like Kororinpa. Hope it comes to US someday. I'll be all over Metroid and Mario when they arrive (March, some stores are advertising?). Oh, and Smash Bros. Got Wii to connect to the internet and downloaded updates without problems, except my linksys router seems to have a gimpy leg from day 1 and needs to be power cycled when connecting wirelessly for unknown reasons.

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It's sort of been a while since home Nintendo systems were in high demand, hasn't it? Let's hope they can keep it up.

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This guy must be totally mental!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr3wue0nec4

But I don't know about the same guy doing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI

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Wow. I'm glad I didn't have to stay the night, but anyhow,
I Got A Wii!
This morning, a couple hours ago, I drove with my dad to Gamestop, and got one. I just walked right into the store and bought one! No line! No one waiting outside! I got there right when it opened, and I got one! I got one!! But, I haven't started to play it yet.

Oh, games. I got Zelda, Dragonball Z, and the Hospital ER game. I just can't believe my luck! :D

I'm off to play it soon! Wheeeeee!



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Wow. I'm glad I didn't have to stay the night, but anyhow,
I Got A Wii!
This morning, a couple hours ago, I drove with my dad to Gamestop, and got one. I just walked right into the store and bought one! No line! No one waiting outside! I got there right when it opened, and I got one! I got one!! But, I haven't started to play it yet.
That's really cool! I'm guessing demand is especially high in cities like mine because this is a double-college town with ~60,000 college kids that can keep on top of the techie news, and probably 40,000 younger kids. That's like half of the total population within a five mile radius.

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Right.
I have decided finally that I hate Nintendo's new consoles name. I realise that it is a very effective way of getting mindshare, and that it is perfectly suited for the World Wide Web, not to mention childish jokes, but it is really impossible to talk about in front of friends and family, I mean, saying 'I want a wii for Christmas' is a great way to make people look at you like your 'special', and back away slowly.

Not that the big N is helping out. Ok, for the first time in my life, I have seen Nintendo advertise. Unfortunately, although for someone who is 'with it', I understand perfectly what the ad is trying to convey, but anyone else I have seen watch the ad goes 'What was that about?'. When I try to explain it to them, they fail to see the ingenuity of using motion sensors and something to detect where you point the controller. they could have at least shown a real example.

That's not to say that I don't want to get the console, I think its a very interesting concept, and its been executed well. They just managed to make it so geeky its embarrassing.
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Call it a Nintendo Wii. Problem solved.

But hang on a minute, Defrag NiroZ, aren't you in Australia? Nintendo don't play ads in Australia! Nintendo Australia are a glorified warehouse! Silly Niro.

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Mattcrampy wrote:
Call it a Nintendo Wii. Problem solved.

But hang on a minute, I think your wrong, or out of the country! Lets see how you explain this one.

I know, I was surprised too. It was on channel 10 last night, a few times apparently. Ask people who watched Australian Idol 'SmS us money to hear bad music' if they saw ad that had a white background with a weird object making noises.

EDIT: oh, and I tried calling it Nintendo Wii. Its only slightly more successful.



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They paid money for an Australian Idol spot? Wow.

Edit: YouTube comes through, and I see what they're doing. You gotta remember that Australia is a very non-traditional market, and party games like SingStar and Buzz that are, well, gimmicky, do much better here than in the US where they're playing up the 'it's video games, but look at this ca-razy controller! Look at all the stuff you can do with it!' angle. The only weakness to their approach is that the American ads work with the name a lot better, and they really should have done that in the Australian ads. ("On December 7, wii let everyone play" or something.

They filmed their own ads? Wow.

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Okay, so I finally beat Zelda (yay!) earlier this morning before school. I must say I was a little bit dissapointed. I am not a big, hardcore Zelda fan, but after I beat the Wind Waker, I was all excited to play the next Zelda game, when it came out. But I didn't enjoy this one. It had a darker theme to it, with a teen Link. I guess I just liked playing as a little kid in the Windwaker. So, anywaise, It took me a week and a day or two to beat it, the bosses were fun and challenging, and the whole game was fairly difficult.

I now started to play the DragonBallZ game. I must say that I was surprised to see that you can do pretty much all the fighting moves with a wave of the remote! I must say I am really enjoying this game, more than Zelda.

And, I beat Super Mario World again, and bound 6000 Wii points. Ahh, the memories.

I really am enjoying the Wii currently, with it's innovative controls and games, and I can't wait for another great game to come along! If I were you, I'd buy one as soon as I could! :D
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Aah.. to have beat it. Accursed parental units. I don't think I've played for 15 hours yet.
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Aah.. to have beat it. Accursed parental units. I don't think I've played for 15 hours yet.

Savor it, like a fine wine. Your memories of it will be stronger because of the pauses in your play. Also, it'll give you time to mull over some of the tougher puzzles in the game.

Comes out on Thursday here. I can't wait! (I wonder if I can freeze myself...)

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