key-smiter
Level: Master Delver
Rank Points: 121
Registered: 06-15-2003
IP: Logged

Hoo boy . . . it looks to me like there's two philosophies here. Either light the fuse, stay back and get overwhelmed by tar babies, or light the fuse, start smiting tar, and get overwhelmed by tar babies. I've tried both, and can vouch for the overwhelming part (although I've lasted much longer by staying in the south room.)

Which of these two philosophies is the "right" one?

Thanks -

Niccus
Level: Smiter
Rank Points: 308
Registered: 07-02-2006
IP: Logged

I haven't finished yet, but if I have to guess, it's the orb-hugging philosophy.

Of course, I haven't finished that room yet. You decide.

Mikko
Level: Master Delver
Rank Points: 276
Registered: 02-04-2003
IP: Logged

I haven't solved this one yet, so can't tell you what the right approach is. However, I can tell you that staying in the southern section is not going to work, because the big gate will be opened when the bomb explodes.

Briareos
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 3516
Registered: 08-07-2005
IP: Logged

Mikko wrote:
I haven't solved this one yet, so can't tell you what the right approach is. However, I can tell you that staying in the southern section is not going to work, because the big gate will be opened when the bomb explodes.

Well, there's several ways to solve this room.


np: SCSI-9 - Eclair De Lune (The Line Of Nine)

____________________________
"I'm not anti-anything, I'm anti-everything, it fits better." - Sole
R.I.P. Robert Feldhoff (1962-2009)

jbluestein
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 1670
Registered: 12-23-2005
IP: Logged

Well, I can survive until the big door drops, but then I can't seem to find a safe escape path.



Thanks,
Josh

____________________________
"Rings and knots of joy and grief, all interlaced and locking." --William Buck

Briareos
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 3516
Registered: 08-07-2005
IP: Logged

jbluestein wrote:

Click here to view the secret text

×I've tried waiting until the last possible minute to hit the fuse -- which is move 23, by my count, if I want to minimize spawning. This means that the last spawn takes place about 10 moves before the bomb explodes. Is this not enough?

np: Thom Yorke - The Clock (The Eraser)

____________________________
"I'm not anti-anything, I'm anti-everything, it fits better." - Sole
R.I.P. Robert Feldhoff (1962-2009)

Kevin_P86
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 535
Registered: 06-28-2005
IP: Logged

File: MS Deadly Tricks 1N Didnt work.demo (1.2 KB)
Downloaded 49 times.
License: Public Domain

So I have been trying things like this <---- which it seems don't work. Does anyone think there's a future in continuing to try something like this, or do I need a new strategy? If it is the latter, I think I need some more advice. I have tried using the orb to get the babies to block other babies from forming, and at the same time getting them to all come from one side, but I can only keep it up for a few spawns (2, or maybe 3) before I can't stop them coming from both sides.

Suggestions?

____________________________
+++++[>+++++<-]>[>+++>++++>+++++<<<-]>.>+.>-------.<++++.+++++.

jemann
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 160
Registered: 01-13-2006
IP: Logged

Kevin_P86 wrote:
Suggestions?

1)
2)
It's a tough room.

Insane
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 154
Registered: 08-06-2005
IP: Logged

Now this is just too insane.
After reading all the hints above and trying for days, I think I'll just plain request a demo.

-Insane

larrymurk
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 1912
Registered: 12-09-2004
IP: Logged

File: MS Deadly Tricks 1N Victory.demo (1.4 KB)
Downloaded 115 times.
License: Public Domain

Here's my demo..

Insane
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 154
Registered: 08-06-2005
IP: Logged

Wish me luck writing down every single move in your demo on a peice of paper.
I've been using it's assumed strategy, but I seem to always misget the exact times when to wait instead of hitting the orb, so the tarbabies still keep their rythem.

-Insane

EDIT: Oh yeah, anybody wanna help me with it?
I don't have that much time.
I wanna completely list the moves used in the form of 1-9, Q and W.

---

[Last edited by Insane at 03-05-2007 05:08 PM]

larrymurk
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 1912
Registered: 12-09-2004
IP: Logged

Insane wrote:
Wish me luck writing down every single move in your demo on a peice of paper.
I've been using it's assumed strategy, but I seem to always misget the exact times when to wait instead of hitting the orb, so the tarbabies still keep their rythem.

-Insane

EDIT: Oh yeah, anybody wanna help me with it?
I don't have that much time.
I wanna completely list the moves used in the form of 1-9, Q and W.

It might be more rewarding if you can follow the strategy instead of writing down a lot of boring moves.

The number 1 point is you're trying to have the babies cover the spawn points so fewer babies get spawned. I also timed it so that babies only "leaked" to one side to make things simpler.

Good luck however you can do it.

Insane
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 154
Registered: 08-06-2005
IP: Logged

And that's exactly what I've been trying to follow until I got frustrated by restarting the complete room over and over and over and over again, everytime I made a mistake, as I normally made the mistake before I stepped on crucial checkmarks.

-Insane

deftriver
Level: Delver

Rank Points: 75
Registered: 07-11-2007
IP: Logged

Insane wrote:
Wish me luck writing down every single move in your demo on a peice of paper.
I've been using it's assumed strategy, but I seem to always misget the exact times when to wait instead of hitting the orb, so the tarbabies still keep their rythem.

-Insane

EDIT: Oh yeah, anybody wanna help me with it?
I don't have that much time.
I wanna completely list the moves used in the form of 1-9, Q and W.

It's only about 300 moves, and once you get it to a controllable horde you really shouldn't need to write down stuff after that.

Also, since it's mainly repetitive you could just do 30 moves or so and look at the demo then do the next set of moves.

Also, I'm unclear as to what the other solutions to the room are. Now that I see 2N I know where to look for those other solutions.

---

[Last edited by deftriver at 08-12-2008 02:46 AM]