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Bug: Ancient Palace: Outer Walls: Entrance:
Stairs to tutorial level end the hold.

Bug: Ancient Palace: Treasure Rooms 3E:
I think this is now impossible with the force arrows pointing downwards. They need to point up.

Issue: KDDL Ep 5: Seventeenth Level 2N2W:
There is a black door. These didn't exist in KDD. Would add a scroll saying: "To drop the black door you need to clear all the tarstuff from the room".


Unintended solution? KDDL Ep 5: Mastery Level: 1W:
I assume the intended solution is to keep the snake alive to deal with the situation to the west side of the room? This isn't needed if you use the mimic.

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What's the magic sequence to escape Episode 6 Level 25: 2S2W? The usual procedure used in KDD2.0 doesn't seem to work.

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Perhaps the orbs have been rearranged, but the general technique should still be the same. Just look at what they do, and remember that you can hit an orb twice in one run, but the 'Neather never will.

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disoriented wrote:
What's the magic sequence to escape Episode 6 Level 25: 2S2W? The usual procedure used in KDD2.0 doesn't seem to work.

Here are some hints of increasing hintness:









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Hmm, no that doesn't quite work.

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I see where the mistake was made. That one door needs to have it's toggle orb struck twice.

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Whoopsie, brain fart. Fixed the solution!

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The solution wasn't broken.

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Okay. How can you say the solution was not broken when disoriented followed my solution, had an issue, you said there was a mistake and I repeated the solution before fixing and found it leads to the same issue disoriented had and after one change in my post it now works?

I am confused.

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You only told him to hit one of the orbs twice, when two of them should have been.

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Probably unintended?

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I haven't stumbled onto the solution yet for Wouldn't mind a spoiler here.

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Huh.

There's a bug.

Roach Eggs grow one turn too quickly.

That's what makes the room still impossible.

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## 1.6.18 - 2025-06-03
- [BUGFIX] Episode 6, Readjusted collection achievements again because I somehow looked at ep 5's data when adjusting them last time
- [BUGFIX] The Ancient Palace ⟶ The Outer Walls, fixed tutorial stairs leading to hold exit
- [BUGFIX] The Ancient Palace ⟶ Treasure Room 3E, made the room solvable
- [BUGFIX] When sparing 'Neather he will no longer step on the player when avoiding the sword
- [BUGFIX] Fixed green lines appearing around bolt graphics
- [BUGFIX] Fixed Roach Eggs growing one turn less than expected.

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skell wrote:
Huh.

There's a bug.

Roach Eggs grow one turn too quickly.

That's what makes the room still impossible.

Much better now.

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For what it's worth I managed to solve that room yesterday, while the roach eggs were growing too quickly. Feel free to try and clear that room while making your first move a wait, if you want the extra challenge!

Really enjoyed replaying KDD in this new context though! I first played AE around the time that JtRH was released so this was a blast from the past for me. I really liked how it's been kept mostly faithful to the original but with a select few parts tweaked to be less tedious. For example, making it so you can easily traverse rooms in L15 once you've solved them once. The achievements are a fun addition too, I'm mostly finished with the game but still have a handful of those left to do.

A few things I've noticed:
- After a long search I'm still missing a secret room in Level 23. I did see a secret wall that leads nowhere, and I noticed that, unlike with the other holds, I could get to the mastery content without having to clear every secret first so this may be intentional while the game is still in development. I'd just like a nudge as to whether that secret is actually accessible!

- I think I satisfied the "Softlocked" achievement (I did it in L25 1S2W), but I wasn't credited for it. 'Neather was certainly surrounded on all sides by monsters or walls, and he was trying to move but couldn't.

- Speaking of the 'Neather, I managed to kill the roaches in the final room without killing him first. Green door considers him a monster so I had to do that anyway, but I'm pretty sure that AE makes it impossible to deal with the roaches safely if he's alive. I think because 'Neather is after the roaches in movement order, so they don't move on the turn when you hit the orb.

- There's a way to crash the game in that room too. If you stab him but then say yes to sparing multiple times, then undoing will crash the game. It's fixable by refreshing the browser and then restoring to the room so not a permanent game-break thankfully, and admittedly a decent fix would just be "don't do that then". I also noticed that if you stab, spare, and undo then it'll ask you the question again. But if you spare after undoing like that, 'Neather won't move out of your sword's way. Could be that that's related to the crash, the game's expecting 'Neather to be somewhere he isn't.

- In the final challenge of each hold, it's possible to clear the room (and leave) even after "failing".

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Looking for a little push in the right direction for:

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disoriented wrote:
I haven't stumbled onto the solution yet for

Click here to view the secret text

×22nd Level: 1S1E.

Wouldn't mind a spoiler here.

I was stuck here too. Focus on turning your sword, and worry more about the N and NE chambers.

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I see from previous posts that Episode 5 has a mastery level, but how to access it?

Also, the "die 51 times" achievement in Episode 5 is ridiculous, even compared to the reduced numbers in the other episodes. Of course (some) players are going to attempt to clear the episode and get all other achievements without getting the "die N times" one, even if there is no official recognition of the feat. Of course it's still possible with the reduced numbers. But in the other episodes it's at a reasonable number, and this one just isn't.

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Its entrance is in

Hidden in the usual way, but the entrance room isn't marked as secret so the restore screen wouldn't have given any clues.

I agree about some of the die x times achievements, I ended up dying and undoing on repeat at the end of some of the chapters. Still, at least it only takes a minute or so to achieve "manually"

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Albert wrote:

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×2W - I don't see a way to extract the wraithwing either.

So where do you kill it? This is the kind of situation that inevitably results.

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×3W - Queens are useful!

I understand what you're suggesting, but cannot find a way to actually accomplish it.

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×1S1W - Make sure you're using the mimics in every way you can.

The eye at 1,4 has to be dealt with first, it seems. After that, what did you do?

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Nuntar wrote:
I see from previous posts that Episode 5 has a mastery level, but how to access it?

Also, the "die 51 times" achievement in Episode 5 is ridiculous, even compared to the reduced numbers in the other episodes. Of course (some) players are going to attempt to clear the episode and get all other achievements without getting the "die N times" one, even if there is no official recognition of the feat. Of course it's still possible with the reduced numbers. But in the other episodes it's at a reasonable number, and this one just isn't.

You folks are just too good at this game. The achievement is set to be 1 death per required room in each episode and I can easily match that. But maybe that's because I run into the room first and then ask questions .

I'll nerf the number in all episodes. Are the undos at least reasonable?

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For what it's worth I managed to solve that room yesterday, while the roach eggs were growing too quickly. Feel free to try and clear that room while making your first move a wait, if you want the extra challenge! That level's other secret room still has me stumped though.

If you could share the solution I'll make it into an achievement!

After a long search I'm still missing a secret room in Level 23. I did see a secret wall that leads nowhere

The nudge:

I could get to the mastery content without having to clear every secret first

Whoooooooooops. I somehow forgot to put the master wall in the correct spot.

I think I satisfied the "Softlocked" achievement (I did it in L25 1S2W), but I wasn't credited for it. 'Neather was certainly surrounded on all sides by monsters or walls, and he was trying to move but couldn't.

That's actually two bugs I had there which prevented it being rewarded.

(as for other things, I'm fixing the bugs and issues reported)

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skell wrote: You folks are just too good at this game. The achievement is set to be 1 death per required room in each episode and I can easily match that. But maybe that's because I run into the room first and then ask questions .

I'll nerf the number in all episodes. Are the undos at least reasonable?

That explains the imbalance -- deaths obviously rack up much faster in the tar horde level than in a quiet level like 9 or 15. Not sure what you mean by "nerf"; it sounds like Albert wants it reduced still further, while I'm arguing for episodes 1-4 to be left alone and the number increased in episode 5 (haven't tested 6 yet).

The undoing achievements are fine as far as I've noticed. There's usually just one room somewhere along the way where I undo a lot because the checkpoints aren't great.

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Nuntar wrote:
while I'm arguing for episodes 1-4 to be left alone and the number increased in episode 5 (haven't tested 6 yet).

Oh wait, you want the number to be increased? I totally read "ridiculous" as being too high!

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Oh, I assumed Nuntar and I were on the same page too! Don't worry about my take then, if there are some players who'd prefer a higher quota so they can try to avoid it then please cater to them instead!

Regarding the room with the quick solution:


And thank you for that other nudge! We were talking about the same room, I cannot believe I missed that before

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Albert wrote:

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×Try fighting it when it has less of a home-field advantage.

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×Challenge - try killing it in less than 100 moves.

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×Once you get the central concept, this is really just a room around manipulating a queen to go where you need her.

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×With good timing, you can set a queen going in one direction and get her blocked by her own eggs before she gets too far.

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×Saying that that eye needs to be dealt with first is a very good way of putting it.

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×But what else could "dealt with" mean?

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Ep 4 has two acheivements called "Hunter Games". I think the one for visiting every room in original level 13 was supposed to have an explorer themed name.

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