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Author Name:Team Eclipsical
Submitted By:Nuntar
Hold Name:The Descent of King Hesper
Theme:Progression from beginner to expert
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Number of Levels:146
Number of Rooms:2480
Number of Monsters:19547
Version:DROD: The Second Sky (5.0.2)
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Nuntar
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02-22-2025 at 04:28 PM
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kikuchiyo wrote:
I'm at chapter 6, playing with the intention of finding and completing all secrets as early as possible, but looking at Pearls' latest video I see that I'm missing an item
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Can I get a hint for its whereabouts?
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02-22-2025 at 06:22 PM
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Thanks to both. The scroll next to the third door says "Village Archives", so I expect the third key will come up later, when it's time to learn the Big Secrets.

While we're at it: there is an inaccessible stairway in the chapter 2 hub, and a secret room above the level exit (I right clicked around the exit room, and the path with the breakable tiles ends right next to the wall, but there is one tile of solid wall there). When do I get to go to either of those places?

What about the inaccessible room in
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02-22-2025 at 06:42 PM
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kikuchiyo wrote: While we're at it: there is an inaccessible stairway in the chapter 2 hub, and a secret room above the level exit (I right clicked around the exit room, and the path with the breakable tiles ends right next to the wall, but there is one tile of solid wall there). When do I get to go to either of those places?
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What about the inaccessible room in [level]?
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02-22-2025 at 06:55 PM
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Sorry, I misspoke. I meant chapter 3 hub
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. I don't see any breakable walls in either of those rooms.
02-22-2025 at 07:30 PM
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Oh :P Then
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02-22-2025 at 07:33 PM
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The first two victory demos on Caravelnet for
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are corrupt. How is this possible?
02-23-2025 at 10:10 PM
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What version of DROD are you running?

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02-23-2025 at 11:54 PM
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5.1.0 - still no official Caravelnet-enabled release for 5.1.1 on linux
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I checked with my 5.1.1 debug build, and indeed, those two demos are fine there.

Something about temporal clones bumping into each other must have changed.

Edit: no, it's having to do with one of the clones reclaiming his sword one turn later in 5.1.0, when someone steps on the disarm token.

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02-24-2025 at 06:42 PM
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More precisely: in 5.1.0, the timeclone faces the direction he moves in when regaining his sword, suggesting he moves first and then rearms. In 5.1.1, he faces the direction he was originally in, suggesting he rearms and then moves.

I don't know why exactly the bug happened, but I do remember it happening to me during testing.
02-24-2025 at 07:30 PM
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Be warned: this hold is large.

So large, in fact, that losing progress is quite impactful. I ran into an issue in the Mac version 5.1 where my progress kept getting reset, and ended up having to switch to the Windows version to complete the hold.

Recommend backing up your drod-5_0/ folder periodically as you make progress.

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04-09-2025 at 07:40 PM
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Should I be worried if I'm playing on GNU/Linux? I don't want to lose any progress I've made.
04-16-2025 at 06:57 AM
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GNU/Linux

I'd just like to interject for a moment...

Personally I haven't encountered any saving issue so far, nor do I know anyone who did. If you care about uploading highscores I do recommend playing on a 5.1.1 build due to the demo verification issue mentioned above.
04-16-2025 at 07:42 PM
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I haven't had any severe problems apart from the one reported above. I had a few crashes (5.1.0 has a few known bugs, e.g. with timeclones), but those didn't cause any data loss either.
04-16-2025 at 08:52 PM
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Good to hear. Losing all the progress from all the holds sounds devastating... Time to start making backups too, just in case.
04-16-2025 at 09:12 PM
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I'm not sure where I should post this kind of stuff, but (Chapter 8 optional content thing (unintended progression))
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04-30-2025 at 05:58 AM
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Warning to anyone playing Chapter 8:

It has come to our attention that a variable set in one room is not being reset correctly, which will cause problems in another level (specifics in the spoiler tag below). Fortunately, once you know that the problem exists, it is very easy to avoid. We would love to fix this, but because of the size of the hold, we are going to hold out until DROD 5.2 is out and then request permission for a single big update.

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