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I've been able to get through the part with all the tar babies. but I can't seem to figure out how to kill the snake. It seems logical that you have to use both roaches, but I can't keep them alive at the same time. What do I have to do?

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I've been able to get through the part with all the tar babies. but I can't seem to figure out how to kill the snake. It seems logical that you have to use both roaches, but I can't keep them alive at the same time. What do I have to do?
What sword direction do you have?

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I use only one roach to kill the snake.

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I have no idea what I have to do here :(

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After some further trying I guess:
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But after several attemps, I've got the feeling that the tar babies realy like beethro's meat.

I would like a demo.

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Here's a demo of how to "complete" the room, from were you are now.
05-11-2009 at 10:31 AM
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What sword position do I need the complete this room for good?
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You've guessed correctly about the sword position.

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Uh... where can I change my sword position? -_-

(note: I can change it so sword points N, but it doesn't help me much... where can I change it to SE?)

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mxvladi wrote:
(note: I can change it so sword points N, but it doesn't help me much... where can I change it to SE?)

You haven't fully explored the extent of your N sword direction yet.

There's a room you can solve with your sword N that should help out.

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Oh, thanks! I haven't tried to solve that room(you know what room I'm talking about ;)) with sword pointing north.

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Seems like I have to ask a question here, too. Despite all those tips I still have got a problem with

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Can someone help me? :huh
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Grizzly wrote:
Seems like I have to ask a question here, too. Despite all those tips I still have got a problem with

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Can someone help me? :huh

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Josh

That would be the first time through the room but this way I cannot conquer the room because of the tar field at the exit.
According to CuriousShyRabbit, for the second playthrough I have to
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Grizzly wrote:

That would be the first time through the room but this way I cannot conquer the room because of the tar field at the exit.
According to CuriousShyRabbit, for the second playthrough I have to
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Phew, got it. Thank you! :thumbsup
10-03-2009 at 04:36 PM
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I have already cleared the room, but i would like to access the room to the west. I can only reach the area marked (1) with my sword pointing east.

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The way I did was:
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(demo available if wanted, just ask ;) )

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Thanks, I got it.
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I got that, but how do I get to the room west of this one? I know it's possible because there's a hint thread for it.

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I'm trying to get to the room to the west of this, and I think I have to plug up the passage at (18,16) Is this right, and how do I do it?

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Did you watch Blonbeard's demo?
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On my second trip through this room, with sword pointed east.

I can't find any way to hit the pressure plate at 17,11 now. I can't get a golem in there because i have to be on the left of the giant to kill it, and i can't get a tar baby in there because they're brained.
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You want the following situation:

HHT
HBS
HGG
AGG

H=Hot Tile, T=Tar Baby, B=Beethro, G=Giant, A=Arrow.

It's not trivial to acomplish, but quite possible.
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I hope this is enough :)

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How do I change my sword to E?
I thought that 5N1E (after being completed) would be the room to do so, because after beating it, there is the green tile you can use. The problem however is with removing the bombs

Now, it seems like I need decoys pointing north, but if I enter that area the briar will block me from going back to the entrance of the room.

Unless I can change to E in other room?

EDIT: Finally, I got struck by H&S blessing!!

Okay, so in case someone wonders
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Okay. How do I pass this room the FIRST time (starting with sword pointing NW)?

Should I kill the tar mother before it spawns, or the golem anywhere?

At what point do I stand when turn my sword, and how do I reach that point?

Do I interact with the brain in any way on this run, or should I find a way to leave it alive (which requires me to turn my sword before passing it)?

I'm kinda out of ideas already... Please, I don't want a "demo", I want some actual productive hints.

But as I see it, I have the following problems.

(1) I cannot pass out the western entrance, past the broken orbs, unless my sword is pointing NW. If I do that I will break the tar, so I also have to have time to retreat a couple of times to let the new babies down the tunnel.

(2) Also this means I must pass the brain with sword still pointing NW, and thus kill it.

(3) I cannot find a safe way to stand on the pressure plate at (3,25) - regardless of what I do with the mimic, including opening the southern pressure plate to close a door and kill one square of briar at (2,22).

(4) There is at this point no way to pass (10,15), and in any case that would only get me to (12,7) and the ability to leave the room with sword turned north.

(5) Regardless of whether I trigger the pressure plate at (24,24) or not, or indeed whether anything else triggers it (to open the yellow door at (2,26) rather than leaving it closed), the briars grow from north and south to kill me when I pass (3,25).

Wnat am I missing?

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This is the key issue:

JLE wrote:
(3) I cannot find a safe way to stand on the pressure plate at (3,25) - regardless of what I do with the mimic, including opening the southern pressure plate to close a door and kill one square of briar at (2,22).

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Hm, I got it. And I take it that the next time I come through the room is only a brief encounter, and - thanks to the oremites - I end up leaving north, with sword pointing NW?

And the third run-through, arriving from the north, is again a brief pass-through, ending up leaving to to the east with sword pointing N?
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