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Author Name:	Mike Rimer
Submitted By:	mrimer
Hold Name:	Dugan\'s Dungeon Revisited
Theme:	Early floors of Dugan\'s Dungeon with a twist!
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Number of Levels:	6
Number of Rooms:	56
Number of Monsters:	683
Version:	DROD: Architect's Edition
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Hold Karma:	4 (+4 / -0)

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Krishh
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The stairs at the end of DD lead back to the beginning of DD. IS it supposed to be this way, or is it that bug again?

06-08-2004 at 04:00 PM

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Some of the stairways do go back to the start of a level. Which level+room has this behavior?

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06-08-2004 at 04:26 PM

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Downward Descent 2S3E, the left stairs.

06-08-2004 at 05:35 PM

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Krishh wrote:
Downward Descent 2S3E, the left stairs.

When I used the stairs in the same place.
This is the room

Went to black screen that said "You have conquered Dugan's Dungeon Revisited" ... where will the
tunnels take you next?"
Hitting enter takes you to the main menu.
Hitting continue from the main menu will take you back to level 1 with all the other levels in the restore available, but I was very confused. Is this intentional? I would have expected to go to level 1 again directly without hitting continue just like the other levels.

I am glad I checked the forum to see how many levels there were or I would have thought I was done and missed the rest. :w00t

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07-17-2004 at 08:44 AM

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I just finished playing this hold and love some of the puzzles.

As to Downward Descent: Once South ("the snake and the tar" room), I don't really find it that random. Fun little puzzle!

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08-13-2004 at 09:10 AM

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Wow, this hold is great! I beat the snake-and-tar room easily. But I'm having a little more trouble with this room. Is this supposed to be one of the impossible rooms? Because otherwise, why won't the blue door open?

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08-22-2004 at 03:01 PM

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It's possible. It's rather difficult to explain how without giving away the answer, though.

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08-22-2004 at 03:38 PM

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I had a lot of difficulty with this room too. Um...

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I don't think I can say any more without giving away the solution.

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08-22-2004 at 04:04 PM

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Argh....I'll try my best...this may be considered a explicit solution, so be warned!!!

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08-22-2004 at 04:27 PM

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I can't seem to find the stairs to access

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08-23-2004 at 07:35 AM

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That's to be expected:

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There are secret passages and unmarked stairwells all over this hold, it's just a matter of tracking them down. Since they're hidden, I don't know how wise it is to tell you how to find them...

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08-23-2004 at 09:43 AM

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Well, unless the editor is hiding something from me, I've seen every room in this hold, and I still can't find the stairs.

08-23-2004 at 05:11 PM

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Downward Descent leads to...

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Ok...

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08-23-2004 at 10:45 PM

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Well, I am quite confused about the Forgotten Way. The highscores page does say there is one explorer on that level, but... Is it currently possible to reach *that* level? The only way I know of to hide stairwells is tar, but there isn't any tar to be found in the vicinity; crumby walls (or regular walls) do not seem to be able to hide those stairwells, and I have visited all rooms, so.

08-04-2005 at 02:58 PM

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I beat the first floor VERY easily but now im in the second floor and im stuck in the entrance i cant think of any possible way to kill all of the roaches coming from all directions pls help me here

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08-06-2005 at 04:58 PM

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Insane wrote:
I beat the first floor VERY easily but now im in the second floor and im stuck in the entrance i cant think of any possible way to kill all of the roaches coming from all directions pls help me here.

It will be easier to help you on the Hints and Solutions forum, please post your question there.

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08-06-2005 at 05:54 PM

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JayS wrote:
I can't seem to find the stairs to access

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×The Forgotten Way

Sorry, everyone. I haven't been paying attention to this thread

I've fixed this bug and uploaded a new version. These stairs are in

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08-30-2005 at 06:10 PM

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Indeed, it now works much better. Thanks!

09-01-2005 at 07:04 PM

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I've just noticed, and haven't read why elsewhere, that only 3 of the levels appear in the high scores list. Is there a reason for this?

04-10-2006 at 12:37 PM

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Hmm. Well, notably, many of Downward Descent's rooms have appeared in one form or another in JtRH (The Goblin Bridge is easier with trapdoors, but the queen ledge room is the same, and the Eight Queen problem was a secret room... somewhere or another).

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04-10-2006 at 08:30 PM

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Sorry, I wasn't very clear:

This only lists levels 1, 2 and 3 ie not "Downward Descent" though this level does appear in the Hints and SoOlutions forum, and are scorable in game.

04-10-2006 at 08:52 PM

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Syntax wrote:
This only lists levels 1, 2 and 3

Umm, no it doesn't. It lists (at least for me):
First Level, Second Level, The Forgetten Way, Third Level, Downward Descent, Eleventh Level

Edit: This hold seems to have 'Only allow viewing if visited' enabled, so you need to let Caravelnet know you've explored those other levels. If I log out, I only see the three levels.
I don't know why you're able to see Downward Descent in H&S, though.

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04-10-2006 at 09:05 PM

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Stefan wrote:

Syntax wrote:
This only lists levels 1, 2 and 3
Umm, no it doesn't. It lists (at least for me):
First Level, Second Level, The Forgetten Way, Third Level, Downward Descent, Eleventh Level

If I'm not logged in, I see only the first three levels. Beyond that, it seems to depend on your progress in the hold. I can see Downward Descent, but not Eleventh Level. (I'm at 18/31 scores) And well, I don't have a clue about what's the intented behaviour.

04-10-2006 at 09:14 PM

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Stefan wrote:

Syntax wrote:
This only lists levels 1, 2 and 3
Umm, no it doesn't. It lists (at least for me):
First Level, Second Level, The Forgetten Way, Third Level, Downward Descent, Eleventh Level

Edit: This hold seems to have 'Only allow viewing if visited' enabled, so you need to let Caravelnet know you've explored those other levels. If I log out, I only see the three levels.
I don't know why you're able to see Downward Descent in H&S, though.

Weird! Reckon this might be a bug with regards to dual accounts then. This was originally a post on behalf of VodkaAndCoke. She's finished that hold, but as she was going through "The Forgotten Way", "Downward Descent" and "Eleventh Level", she couldn't (and still can't) see the high scores for these levels on the site. I haven't played the hold, so maybe it's checking for the progress of player 1, and not the actual current player. Will post as a bug in the next couple of days if no-one else gets this behaviour...

04-11-2006 at 02:57 PM

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Just got around to playing this one - funny how for all the griping in the thread, the rooms in Downward Descent hold up the best. Standards seem to have changed.

Also, "The Forgetten Way"? Really?

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02-10-2012 at 05:13 AM

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Holy 6 year bump!
Just finished playing this hold, I found it enjoyable.

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11-30-2012 at 07:54 AM

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This one was interesting mainly for the Downward Descent section, Eight Queens problem got me stuck for a while and I found the solution not while I was playing, but while thinking about it half asleep in a bus.

Apart from that didn't find so much appeal in it... anyway this was one of the very first holds and JtRH paid its proper tribute to these levels too.

P.S. I've counted 55 rooms and not 56 in the restore section... am I missing something?

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12-23-2013 at 06:38 PM

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Yeah, this hold was my first attempt at building DROD levels, back when I just implemented the level editor. Fortunately, it's pretty simple and not too long. A few nice rooms there, imho. Thanks for trying it out!

(Don't know about where the room count de-sync you're seeing is offhand, or where you might be missing something.)

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12-23-2013 at 07:05 PM

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mrimer wrote: Yeah, this hold was my first attempt at building DROD levels, back when I just implemented the level editor. Fortunately, it's pretty simple and not too long. A few nice rooms there, imho. Thanks for trying it out!

Thank you for building it and for all the subsequent work done for the development of the game itself.

mrimer wrote: Don't know about where the room count de-sync you're seeing is offhand, or where you might be missing something.

Probably it's a matter of synchronization (maybe 56 refers to an older version modified later), in the build section for the conquerors of the hold I'm not seeing any more rooms other than the ones visited.

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12-24-2013 at 04:16 PM

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