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funny room that! but i'm stucked. i need a little help how to kill the upper left snake. i can't bring the tar baby fast enough to this snake...

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i can't bring the tar baby fast enough to this snake...

Well, there's an "official" way and the way I did it... :)

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thnx! it was once again the easy that is hard to do *g*

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Why am I not even able to get even one snake dead without trapping a tar baby? I'm going to blame it on not playing DROD for like 2 weeks. Yeah.
01-08-2006 at 11:41 PM
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Sorry for double-posting. But I don't think I made it clear enough in my last post that I need a hint. I still can't do it. O_o
01-11-2006 at 10:23 PM
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I think (I'd have to check my demo at home) that I killed the bottom left snake first, followed by the bottom right snake. When you're below the ledge that the tar babies come out of, you shouldn't have any problem with them getting trapped (since they won't go up from the mother). The other three are harder, and I used the fill up method described above.

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Order to kill snakes:
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General method to kill a snake(ie. the top-center or top-right are easiest):
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01-11-2006 at 11:32 PM
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AHHHH I can't get the upper left one now. I am always one move short from coming back, and it appears that the only way to make up that one move is to not get the tar baby to follow you into the snake area, which is just counter-productive. This room has been bugging me for the last like 2 weeks. O_o


Edit - Got it. Yeah. The magical power of posting helped me get it. Go team me.

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01-12-2006 at 01:14 AM
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I still can't get it. alway one move short (or two) etc.. :blush

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Robin,

Are you having trouble w/ the NW snake?
If so, does Briareos' first post help?
02-10-2006 at 04:41 PM
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After a night of party/sleep/work/sleep,
I managed to kill 4 snakes, but now there are still 2 tar babies left in NE and N that I can't get out.
for N I am 1 move short
for NE I am 3 moves short

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North Middle:

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North East:

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02-11-2006 at 07:04 PM
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Yess!! I did it.

I had to replay whole the room, because the middle-north, I left through 1 when I killed the snake.

And I also made a type error, I meant north-west (in stead of east). But you're NW hint gave my an idea.

So thanks!
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I can't figure out how to kill the upper-left tar baby. There is no conceivable method to get there and back save Briareos's method, and I can't get that to work either. I always end up 3 moves short (2 to turn sword + 1 to kill baby).
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I can't figure out how to kill the upper-left tar baby. There is no conceivable method to get there and back save Briareos's method, and I can't get that to work either. I always end up 3 moves short (2 to turn sword + 1 to kill baby).


Ahhh, to kill the NW tar baby try keeping your sword North or South the entire run.
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well it seems that no hint can help me with this tar baby,i can't figure anything to get him.
You know what's great about this hold is that the settings are awesome,you know i was happy when i got it,for example,in the room with many tar mother behind yellow doors and orb for each.But the drawback is,there is very very few room left for ideas,there's often one solution at one move and if you don't get this one you'll most likely not get the room...
Sooooo that tar baby is ruining my fun ^^ will the magic of posting help me this time by finding the solution rightaway? :lol

edit:as usual,got it right after posting... holy magic oO

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I can't work out how to get babies to *either* of the snakes on the east side of the room. I've killed all the others and made sure not to leave babies behind, but no matter what I try with getting things to the northeast snake (I can see better than to attempt to take something to the southeast one yet), I just plain can't seem to get *anything* up there without either killing it or getting myself killed in the process.

EDIT: Never again will I doubt the 'post for help and figure it out' trick :-O

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Grrr. I can't get any of the serpents.

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Demo Please?

Not any more, do I need a demo.

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I just noticed something very unusual in the high score table for this room: worth checking out if you've solved it.

Kargaros blitzed the previous high score by nearly 80 moves, nearly a decade after Rabscuttle's score posted in 2005.

How did he do that? You should go watch but ....

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quote:
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I just noticed something very unusual in the high score table for this room: worth checking out if you've solved it.

Kargaros blitzed the previous high score by nearly 80 moves, nearly a decade after Rabscuttle's score posted in 2005.

How did he do that? You should go watch but ....



I don't know why someone modded down your post. Seeing these kinds of optimizations that "think outside the box" years later is quite interesting, at least to me, but other long-term players I'm sure.

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Agreed.

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Disoriented & Mike,

thanks for the encouragement; your reputations gives this opinion weight.

I have, generally, refrained from engaging in Hints & Solutions discussions unless I'm stuck or offering help, because of some previous negative feedback.

Eye of the Storm non-essential Thread (-2) mods

So, I accept the risk of a downmod (which can be slightly crushing, especially when I took care to screenshot and craft an attractive post here) and it does tend to make me think carefully about whether to post, which is ok.

Edit: removed guesses about names of downmodders.


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1) I did not mod you down. I happen to agree completely that seeing some of the ingenious techniques that #1 demos use is interesting and informative and I believe I have stated this in the past.

2) This is just a guess, but I suspect the down-mod has little to do with wasted time. I would guess it's that someone disagrees with the sentiment above in that this gives away the trick for achieving the #1 score. I know that there have been heated discussions about "sniping" #1 scores in the past, so some people's passions may run high about this, though I would have expected a post to that effect or at least a PM. It could also be the lack of spoiler tags around the picture (though again that deserves possibly a PM requesting them, not a downmod).

3) Making guesses publicly about who modded you down is the kind of thing that is likely to lead to more mod downs. The three posters you listed have, in my experience, have a lot of integrity and I would find it surprising for any of them to mod down a post for a non obvious reason without a follow up post.

4) (To all) Remind me again why modding down is a thing that exists?

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ok, we're entering dangerous forum flame territory here,
so I'll stop feeding that troll now.

I secreted the picture, and removed the guesses about the downmodders; you're right that such speculation is inflammatory.

I'm glad you like the occasional piece of retro-analysis.

There's certainly a case for positive mods only.

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How can I take care of the center-north serpent at all? I am aiming to take care of it first, but I'm always a few turns short of getting back before a tar baby spawns and beelines for the deadzone... and reaches it right as I get on its same level.

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Timing is everything here.

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Timing is everything here.

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Ah, that makes sense. Anyhoo...
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Took a quick glance at that demo.

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Took a quick glance at that demo.

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