butsam
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A gray door opens up only after all roaches (and roach mamas) are defeated.

Sam

eytanz
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I don't like it. If we give a door to roaches, why don't the eyes get one? And the spiders? Or the goblins? Or the serpents?

The black doors are different because they aren't about monsters - they are about the stationary tar, which is a room feature, akin to the trapdoors. I'm assuming black doors will open even if there are still tar babies around.

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zex20913
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Eytanz: Why don't we give a door to each of them?

This may be more trouble than it's worth, but I think it would add a lot more possibility to the game, doing certain orders and stuff. Discussion?

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I think "more trouble than it's worth" more-or-less justifies it. Plus, it would lead to a lot of different kinds of door for players to memorize (esp. once more monster types are added), unless some graphical solution can be found.

A lot of doing things in certain order can be arranged by yellow doors and careful placement of orbs - I know that not everything can be done that way, but it works for many cases (especially now that arrows on doors are allowed, so one-way-doors are possible).


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butsam
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I think if there is time, give to all of them, but it may very well be more trouble than it's worth. The reason for me choosing roaches is simply because they are the most "basic" monsters, and in many cases you could make it so you have to kill, for instance, all of the eyes before you can even get to the 1 roach to kill, effectively giving the eyes a "door" you have to open, but without any additional code--just some clever level design. There are two creatures that I can think of that this would not work for--Stationary Tar (I like the Black door idea though) and Snakes. Admittedly, however, I can't think of a puzzle that would need a door for snakes, so scratch that one unless someone comes up with a good idea. So a door for roaches and the before-mentioned black door for tar would be able to cover almost all of the possibilities for new levels.

Sam

[Edited by butsam on 07-09-2003 at 04:10 AM]