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so I'm making a scenario for blades of avernum, but I don't want to give too much away to the BoA community, so I'm not asking them for help in testing or graphics... I'm asking you nice people, so I can surprise them

anyway, I seem to be lacking in the mad-photoshop graphics skills and am having troubles making a "small river flowing downhill" icon to go with my "small river" icon (which I cheated on by copying the east and west shoreline graphics onto one square. bad me). see attached image.

think you can help? I have (some) karma to give and, of course, you'd have my gratitude.

later (much later, most likely), I'll have the scenario ready for beta testing.

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Here's a quick try at it.

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wow, if that's what ye mean by "quick try" ... well, anyway, thanks!!

so, uh, how did ye do it? I played with just making lines in the colors I wanted and using the noise filter, but it wouldn't mix the water and shore well enough for me...


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so, uh, how did ye do it? I played with just making lines in the colors I wanted and using the noise filter, but it wouldn't mix the water and shore well enough for me...

I took the green out of the one with water. Then I skewed it to fit on the hill in just a straight line. Then I used the liquify filter with a brush about the width of the water to twist it a little bit, so it looked more 3D. All of that smoothed the water out too much, so I used a sharpen filter to give it the same look as the other water. It really only took a few minutes - no big deal.

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looks like this in game

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Don't you need sloped river graphics in the other three directions? (Not to sign up Schik for more work. )

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Not bad at all!

Game on,

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Um. Not to be nitpicky, but... shouldn't there be some shading at that ?

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well, technically, Erik, you're right - if my goal were to produce a "small river" tileset as a nice public-use release for other scenario designers, I'd need a lot more graphics than I have currently.

However, since my goal is to have some nice looking small river in my one scenario, and it turns out I need them to flow downhill in precisely two places, and really I'm only just now developing the outdoor terrain, I found it more than easy than to make sure both of those places, it was flowing from the north to south and use one graphic for both spots

trick: yah, it could be shaded better. It could be a better graphic, but, hey, I was asking for free handouts, and it's a frakload better than any of the feldercarp I was making, so I'll take it You got a better one, attach it


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Well, since you asked... I, uh, made a quick little edit. Tried to keep with the original style. Not sure how successful it was (the river edges are somewhat different), but it's a bit better, I think. You may have to edit the tile boundaries a bit to make them fit, though.

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I concede! You win. Very nice.

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Man, this scenario writing is hard work (well, I'm also jobhunting and playing DROD a lot, not really full-time scenario writing)... 2.5 months later all I have is the outdoors and 3 friendly towns (well 4 if you count that the main town is a 2-parter) and population in the "main town" (minus 4 "very important" characters which will take nearly as much writing as any 5 other characters combined), and a skeleton population in the other town.

Does anyone besides me have or play BoA?

If so, here's a really really really early "alpha" of my scenario. Man. So much work to go.


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Does anyone besides me have or play BoA?

I will get there eventually. I'm just past the demo point in Avernum 3 and have taken a little break. I am a very slow player of games since I go out of my way not to spend too much time playing. Give me about 6 months and I'll be ready for Blades. And then probably another 6 months after that and I'll be ready to try out your scenario. Some time before you die, I will definitely play it.

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Addendum: If you want to speed up my playtime, please make another comprehensive guide to Avernum 3, like you did for A1. I suffered from the lack of online guidance for A2, and A3 has even poorer documentation. Did everybody back off so Jeff Vogel could sell his hint books? Wuttupwitdat?

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As with Subterra level making, Avernum hint writing was one of the threads that fell away a couple years ago when I was clinically depressed for a long time. Dunno about other people's hint guides.


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Technically, I play (and enjoy) any game made by Spiderweb Software. Does anyone one here know about Nethergate or Geneforge? Those are my favorites.

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