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I got the game a looooong time ago, and now I found it in
my junk drawer, started playing again and I'm hooked!
The Mayhem levels are WAY too hard, though

It all started innocently enough...
Gotta go.

-Rob

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Great puzzle game. I first played Lemmings when I was about 5. Almost as good as DROD really.

Most of Mayhem aren't that bad really - I think Oh No More was a lot harder than the original. I've never completed it anyway.

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Try lemmings 2...*profanity*-ing hard once you start getting to the last levels of space and athletics. Of course, you won't know what I mean if you've never played - it was basically split into 12 areas, each with about 10 levels, getting much harder towards the end.

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I played the L2 demo, which was great fun, but despite trying couldn't find the full game for sale anywhere at all. All the old DOS Lemmings games are out of print now, sadly. I've almost completed 3D lemmings though - that's quite fun - and have Lemmings Paintball, which is good but a very different game - it requires lots of good reflexes which I don't have, and you can't use the Pause feature to get round it like you can in normal Lemmings.

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My dad has the whole collection of the old DOS Lemmings on his computer. I copied them all to disk, and have played some of them. Lemming 2 had some good levels, but some levels were just downright nasty.

The Holidays version of Oh No More (I think anyways. It was a DOS one) was my personal favorite simply because of the stellar level design.

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wackhead_uk wrote:
Try lemmings 2...*profanity*-ing hard once you start getting to the last levels of space and athletics. Of course, you won't know what I mean if you've never played - it was basically split into 12 areas, each with about 10 levels, getting much harder towards the end.

Level 10 of the Space tribe, I found, was pretty amusing when I first discovered the solution.

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I think "Odyssey", Level 7-9, I believe, was probably the nastiest in that tribe, although it's been a while since I played it.

The Sports tribe, I agree, is pretty difficult, with some pretty accurate Archery (as its name suggests) being required for the last level.

The Classic, Highland, Cavelem and Polar tribes also are pretty hard.

The Circus tribe is probably the easiest, I think, although it does have some amusing levels, "Headache" being my favourite for sheer amusement and descriptiveness (you'll see what I mean once you get there).

Certainly worth a play, if you can find a copy somewhere. I'm not sure if this game has had its copyright status lifted (since it doesn't really sell now), but if you can find an Amiga emulator (or, better still, have an actual machine), you could search to see if you could download the disk image ROM from somewhere.

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There's a PC version (available at The Underdogs) as well, if you don't want to trawl the ROM sites.

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I've got lemmings, lemmings 2, oh no more lemmings, lemmings paintball, and just for good measure, holiday lemmings.

And I have to agree with Agaricus, Archery was really hard to do, and polar was just hard to figure out where you were actually supposed to go, never mind actually figuring out what to do along the way!

I just remembered some of the old space ones - classic. like the one with the huge maze. Pity I never actually completed it - my Dad did, however, after many months.

[Edited by wackhead_uk at Local Time:01-09-2005 at 11:04 PM]

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Actually, the download for the PC version has been removed from The Underdogs and now has to be bought from cdaccess together with Lemmings Paintball.

[Edited by Krishh at Local Time:01-10-2005 at 07:55 AM]

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I was referring to Lemmings: The Tribes, which is still up there.

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You can play Lemmings right in your web browser at http://193.151.73.87/games/lemmings/index.html .



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Schik wrote:
You can play Lemmings right in your web browser at http://193.151.73.87/games/lemmings/index.html .

Wow! That's cool.

However, it unfortunately suffers from the same problem as the PC version of Lemmings 1 (it looks very similar, incidentally), where heights are slightly less than they were in the original version. You can see for yourself in "Steel Works", Mayhem 1. The original was much harder, for the initial drop used to be fatal, so floaters needed to be used on the pioneer fallers before a safer drop could be established. In the remakes, this height has sadly diminished, so such a method is no longer required.

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Schik wrote:
You can play Lemmings right in your web browser at http://193.151.73.87/games/lemmings/index.html .

That is really cool. I don't always have internet access and it would be nice to play it without having to be connected to the internet. Is there a way to download the dhtml lemmings? I tried searching the internet for it, however, it just comes up with crap.

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agaricus5 wrote:
However, it unfortunately suffers from the same problem as the PC version of Lemmings 1 (it looks very similar, incidentally), where heights are slightly less than they were in the original version. You can see for yourself in "Steel Works", Mayhem 1. The original was much harder, for the initial drop used to be fatal, so floaters needed to be used on the pioneer fallers before a safer drop could be established. In the remakes, this height has sadly diminished, so such a method is no longer required.

I assume you mean the Windows version, as the DOS game was the original.

The Windows version had lots of gameplay changes actually - such as bombers acting as blockers temporarily when they blew up, or the lemmings not turning round at the top of the game screen. But the challenge in Steel Works isn't really stopping the Lemmings surviving that first fall - it's getting to the exit with only 30 builders available.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was - for those who have an old DOS PC and a copy of the original DOS game, you may be interested in LemEdit, a fanmade level editor, and Custlemm, which lets you play them. Unfortunately the people who made it seem to have disappeared but you can still get it quite easily - like here.

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krammer wrote:
I assume you mean the Windows version, as the DOS game was the original.

Edit: I meant the Windows version was a little less challenging, and the original I referred to was the Amiga version, which I guess was the original original (although my Lemmings history is very patchy, so I may be wrong about which came first).

...But the challenge in Steel Works isn't really stopping the Lemmings surviving that first fall - it's getting to the exit with only 30 builders available.

I guess not, but you still needed 90/100, which certainly isn't trivial to do. I'm a perfectionist, though, so I wanted to go for the best possible score, which I think is 98% for this level.

What I found challenging actually wasn't the builder limit, since the vertical gap after the water doesn't require that many builders if you start building in the correct places, but it was the time limit, since getting all those lemmings to start moving at the correct time before the time limit finished I found tricky, since releasing them too early made them interfere with the construction process.

[Edited by agaricus5 at Local Time:01-10-2005 at 09:15 PM]

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So near yet so far. Possibly the funnest(!) level in lemmings 2, which was incidentally called lemmings the tribes, for anyone who thought we were talking about different things.

I actually like the clasical levels, especially the tetris level.

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You know, the Windows version left out some levels. Anybody have any idea why?
It's driving me crazy, sort of.

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Trust you wackhead to mention that evil level . Anyone got Lemmings Revolution? That's so ace!

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