Omegha
Level: Goblin
Rank Points: 21
Registered: 03-06-2015
IP: Logged

I'm just not having fun anymore with this room.

I understand (I think) the gimmick of the room - transform 3124 order onto 4312 order with one change of mirror position.
I am unable to do so though, I can do either setup just fine but I am nowhere close to making the second setup from it with just one mirror.

If it's only a matter of me missing proper setup, I'd appreciate full solution with fuse placement.
If my above reasoning is incorrect/incomplete - I'd use a hint at this point.

Dragon Fogel
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 2677
Registered: 06-21-2014
IP: Logged

There's an extra trick, though it's not strictly necessary.

Omegha
Level: Goblin
Rank Points: 21
Registered: 03-06-2015
IP: Logged

Oh, that's interesting. Didn't think about it but it allows for some clever ideas.

You say it's not strictly necessary, so you can complete room without this trick?

Dragon Fogel
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 2677
Registered: 06-21-2014
IP: Logged

I built the room with the trick in mind, but it turned out to be possible without it. I don't remember the details there, just that it was possible.

Omegha
Level: Goblin
Rank Points: 21
Registered: 03-06-2015
IP: Logged

Unfortunately even with the trick in mind I cannot find a solution.
I tried bunch of different configurations but none of them helped in any way or were possible in the end.

I'd appreciate someone sharing fuse placement since I am stuck for hours and cannot even backtrack to other levels to get a break.

Nuntar
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 5100
Registered: 02-20-2007
IP: Logged

File: ise solution.zip (678.9 KB)
Downloaded 13 times.
License: Public Domain

I've confirmed that the solution I sent you in discord, for the old version of the room, still works but screenshot 1 must be rotated 180 degrees to account for the desired bomb order in the new version.

In case it's not clear:


Screenshots are attached so that other solvers can also use them

____________________________
50th Skywatcher

---

[Last edited by Nuntar at 02-02-2025 05:19 PM]

Omegha
Level: Goblin
Rank Points: 21
Registered: 03-06-2015
IP: Logged

Thanks for help!
Turned out I was so lost because I misunderstood core of temporal clone mechanics..

I don't know why but I assumed the moment I touch temporal token, I become temporal clone and thus I cannot use special commands anymore.
So I tried to make one fuse setup for both scenarios..

Thanks for the opportunity to rebuild some basic perception of DROD rules in my mind

kikuchiyo
Level: Master Delver
Rank Points: 147
Registered: 04-01-2012
IP: Logged

DROD crashes when I'm viewing the top demo for this room. (Linux, 5.1.0.6513)

Can anyone on 5.1.1 check whether it crashes for them too? (If not, I don't need to open a bug thread)

disoriented
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 2482
Registered: 08-07-2007
IP: Logged

Mac DROD 5.1.1.740 doesn't crash. We sorely need a new Linux build.

____________________________
34th Skywatcher

Best to PM me, since I might miss your message on CaravelNet chat.

json
Level: Roachling
Rank Points: 14
Registered: 06-21-2023
IP: Logged

Just confirmed it doesn't crash on Linux 5.1.1.3661673.