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Title screen version says 5.1.0.6512. I'm using the macOS version of the DROD app.

I've been unable to play back some demos of rooms that contain timeclones. Playing back the demo instantly crashes the app at some point in the middle of the demo. I've attached a sample stack trace of this happening.

This has gotten really bad in certain timeclone rooms to the point where I'm unable to view any demos at all for that room. Example: Arky's Revenge Compilation 2S1E (Room title is Chronocide).

Demos seem to play fine in the "mini-window" on the Demos screen (accessed via the F6 key). Playing a demo by clicking on it is where the trouble starts.

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disoriented
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May be related to this: http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=41353

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Bump because this is a reoccurring gameplay crash that affects usability.

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Which hold, which level, which room and either a link to the demo or attaching the demo file to the post would be greatly appreciated!

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The problem is not specific to any one room or demo; it affects nearly any room with time tokens and custom elements, as far as I can tell, with varying degrees of severity.

For a good example, Arky's Revenge Compilation : 1S1E (the room title is Chronocide).

Download Rabscuttle's demo (doesn't really matter which demo) from CaravelNet and play through the demo by holding the right arrow key. DROD will nearly always crash.

This could be a Mac-specific bug, which is why I included the crashlog.

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Maybe related to this issue, which I encountered in windows?: http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=41398&page=0#408245
..Also, pretty sure the 'bling' noise I mentioned in that post is just the way my computer outputs the DROD error beep. It was 4 years ago.

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Can someone please download and attach such a demo for that Arky Room Compilation? I don't have the room completed and figuring out how to get access to this demo is likely going to take me more time than fixing one or two other bugs reported.

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File: ARC Hall of Brilliant Ideas 2S1E Victory.demo (28.2 KB)
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Here's my demo for the room.

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Can confirm that Dragon Fogel's demo triggers the crash when holding the right arrow key to move forward through it.

However, it's not consistent exactly what turn the crash occurs on.

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The issue happens precisely at the moment when the second speech in the room tries to play AND you finalized a temporal split when the previous one was still playing. Now to figure out WHY it happens. Thanks for sending me the demo!

(and yes, it doesn't consistently always happen, there must be another condition)

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Good sleuthing!

My spidey sense says there's a dangling pointer in the speech that needs to be re-synced to the current room data.

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And that was indeed the case. When temporal split happens the game essentially does an undo move (without cleaning command queue) to the recording start, and that causes a full room reset. In normal gameplay this causes speech resync, but it appears no one remembered to resync things for demo playback. It probably did not surface before because who's insane enough to add speech to a room with temporal projections?

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Can confirm the attached demo crashed for me in the last stable version but did not crash in 5.1.1.alpha.2010-10-16.

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I can also confirm that the crashes in this room's demos no longer occur in the latest Mac build from slimm tom (alpha.2020-10-17-v5.OSX.dmg)

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I'm still using 5.1.0 on macOS, but I'm bumping this because the crash keeps happening to me in a timeclone demo within a second or so of a build marker being placed.

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NoahT wrote:
I'm still using 5.1.0 on macOS, but I'm bumping this because the crash keeps happening to me in a timeclone demo within a second or so of a build marker being placed.

Please try the new 5.1.1 Mac build.

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