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Was she a human? Yes

Was she young when she died? Yes, but irrelevant.

Did she die soon after receiving the advice? No. I deem this question to be important enough to warrant further explanation: She was a young adult by the time she died.

Have she died in an accident? No.

Have she comitted suicide? No.

Was her mother still alive when it happened? No, and irrelevant.

She did not die by misadventure.

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Was anybody else involved?
Was it a surprise (her dying, that is): To her? To other people?
Did she die suddenly? Or was it a long term thing?

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Did she die while giving birth to a child?
Was her mother's advice related to marriage?
Was there a man involved somehow?

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Did she die while giving birth to a child? No.

Was her mother's advice related to marriage? No. Erm.. maybe but not directly. I'm gonna say no.

Was there a man involved somehow? Hm... eh yes.

Was anybody else involved? Yes.

Was it a surprise (her dying, that is): To her? Yes. It was VERY surprising.

To other people? What people? To some no to others yes.

Did she die suddenly? Or was it a long term thing? Irrelevant. I'm gonna say long term thing tho to make it easier to guess.

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Well a typical solution could be something to do with the man being someone that the mother knew was dangerous but that the girl not knowing, and him ending up killing her..

But I'll ask some of that in Yes/No questions.

1) Did the man (from last post) kill her? Deliberately? Accidentally?
2) Did the mother know something about the man that the girl didn't?
3) Did the girl love the man? If not, were they related in some way?

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You're getting awful close.

Yes, he killed her intentionally.
The mother knew nothing the woman didn't.
They knew each other but weren't family or romantically involved.

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Did the girl witness the man commiting a crime?
Did she try to blackmail the man?
Was the murder planned? Or perhaps spontaneus?
Would the man kill the mother too if he knew that she knows as much as the girl?

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Did the girl witness the man commiting a crime? No.

Did she try to blackmail the man? No.

Was the murder planned? It was fully premeditated.

Or perhaps spontaneus? Nope.

Would the man kill the mother too if he knew that she knows as much as the girl? No. She knows less and she's totally unconnected.


Today's hint: How did she die?

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Was the man arrested for killing her?
Did other people realise he had killed her? (ie did he fake it as suicide etc)
Was the woman rich? Did he kill her for money?

[Edited by TripleM at Local Time:12-09-2004 at 10:40 PM]

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Was the man arrested for killing her? No.

Did other people realise he had killed her? (ie did he fake it as suicide etc) No.

Was the woman rich? No. Did he kill her for money? No.

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Were there people witnessing the murder?
Was the man a magician?
Did he saw her in half during his act?


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Define witnessing.

No.

No.

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If I don't get any more interest I may just spoil it for you all.

Today's hint: The murder happened in a crowded place.

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Was the mother's advice to the girl: "Don't get killed?"

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No. Clever, but no.

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Was she killed at work?
Going on from Maurogs idea.. was it some sort of circus (trapeze? tightrope?) or magic show or something like that?

Was she doing something relatively dangerous when she died?

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Did many people witness the girl's death? (i.e. they were looking in her general area and could have a direct eye contact).
Did the people in the crowd think it was an accident when it happened?
Was the probability of dying in that way connected somehow to the girl's job? (i.e. falling to death for paratroopers or getting eaten by crocodiles for a crocodile feeder in the zoo).


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I don't suppose the advice was "don't talk to strangers"?

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jdyer wrote:
I don't suppose the advice was "don't talk to strangers"?

I don't think that would fit any of the clues given out so far.. (most importantly; they weren't strangers - of course they would have been one time but thats true about every single person in the world )

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Did the man use any weapons?

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Was she killed at work? YES.
Going on from Maurogs idea.. was it some sort of circus (trapeze? tightrope?) or magic show or something like that? No.
Was she doing something relatively dangerous when she died? Well, she didn't think it was and (unless you knew all the facts) neither would you.

Did many people witness the girl's death? Yes.
Did the people in the crowd think it was an accident when it happened? No.
Was the probability of dying in that way connected somehow to the girl's job? This one's hard to explain. I mean REALLY hard to explain.... I have to say that the mother thought that there was a job-related threat, but she never specified what.

Today's hint: The people in the crowd didn't think it was an accident, but they didn't think it was murder either (at least not more that a few).

What kind of death is a murder but isn't percieved as one OR AN ACCIDENT by the people watching the death? Besides the twisted arena + gladiatoral combat (Which isn't the girl's job.)

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Death by seemingly natural causes?

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I know! I know! Was there a public execution?
Did the girl willingly switched hersef in secret with the man about to be executed?
In fact, was the girl an executionist?
Did the murderer guy sneaked up on her and put on the hood, and performed the execution on her, while everybody else thought he was the executionist?



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Was she working in place where flammables were being dealt with, and died when someone accidentally started a fire with the flammables?

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Was she an actress, and the gun had real bullets instead of blanks for some reason?

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Was she an actress, and the gun had real bullets instead of blanks for some reason? No.

Was she working in place where flammables were being dealt with, and died when someone accidentally started a fire with the flammables? No.

I know! I know! Was there a public execution? No.
Did the girl willingly switched hersef in secret with the man about to be executed? No.
In fact, was the girl an executionist? No.
Did the murderer guy sneaked up on her and put on the hood, and performed the execution on her, while everybody else thought he was the executionist? No.

Death by seemingly natural causes? At what point? Yes to some, no to others.

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Was the girl sick?
Was she in a hospital?
Did she take any drugs?

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No, no and no. You're close to the right track though.

Hint: She worked in an environment not normally considered dangerous. Hence, her mother's advice and her not following it.

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Did the girl die from poison?
Was the man a customer of whatever the place the girl worked in?
Was somebody's item mistaken for the same item of somebody else?

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Did she die in a pharmacy?
Did she die in a surgery?
Was she actually working when she died (as opposed to being in her workplace)?

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This is why the previous person who wanted to do one of these types of puzzles pulled it out. The thread has become uninspired because we're all trying to ask the right yes/no questions, instead of running through large numbers of riddles. In the past two weeks, there have only been two replies in the thread. Let's move on.

[Edited by DiMono at Local Time:01-08-2005 at 05:58 PM]

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