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Now on the Holds board: http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=44029

A short while ago when moving house I decided in the spare time I had without internet to start work on Curiosity 2. After making 2 levels however, I have not picked it back up in about 6 weeks and have lost interest in continuing it. The two levels are good enough to stand on their own as a short and sweet hold.

So one quick retheme later and I present you: Special Delivery.

This hold's gimmick is that it has some fairly extreme element restrictions, including no yellow doors or force arrows, for whatever that might be worth.

Difficulty-wise it's on the low end and experienced players should breeze through it. Demos appreciated. I hope you enjoy it!

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05-22-2019 at 06:57 AM
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Demos of the first level. Nice stuff!

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05-22-2019 at 09:50 AM
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Did enjoy it! First level

The secret room was very easy

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Demos so far. A few notes:

Click here to view the secret text


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05-23-2019 at 02:35 AM
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Attached are my demos of the second level, except for 2N. I really, really didn't want to deal with the chain mechanics on that one.

Solved the secret room in the editor only, because it was tedious to get there the normal way. Unfortunately I can't record a demo doing that.

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05-23-2019 at 04:37 AM
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Thanks all. Demos are extremely helpful and I really appreciate it.

Just some quick updates on what rooms will be changing and further comments:

Craggy Course
Secret room: As you have all discovered this is very broken, but at least it's easily fixable.
3N1E: All of you avoided the main trick I wanted to get to the secret, so some tweaks will be made.
2N2E: This room has ended up significantly more broken than first appears, it was always the one I was least happy with, so I will be deleting it and replacing it with a new room.

Cursed Courtyard
Entrance: The apostrophe is correct.
1N1E: Nuntar's solution is fine. disoriented's requires me to make some changes though.
2N1W: A real cool solution by disoriented but completely misses the purpose of the room and involves more gentryii manipulation than I'm happy with, so it'll need to be fixed up.

As to why I'm "giving up" on the hold. I originally had more ideas for levels, but in practice they quickly proved more difficult than I cared for given the extreme nature of restrictions I was going for. I still think this hold as is good, releasing it as its own thing frees up my DROD time to work on more cool stuff in a separate project. Everybody wins.
05-23-2019 at 10:19 PM
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I thought 2N2E was clever, at least using the solution I found. Maybe you just need a way to enforce room failure when the eyes move too far?

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all done

second level is more challenging, especially 2N and 3N, found them the most difficult.

very very nice ! liked it a lot
05-24-2019 at 05:20 AM
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Wow KituU that solution to the Cursed Courtyard secret room was impressive! 👏

I'll leave it in, but not sure I could really stop it even if I wanted to.
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Updated hold attached to the first post!

v2 changelog:
Craggy Course
* Entrance: Added credits scroll
* 2N2E: Removed room and replaced with a new one.
* 3N: Added an extra eye trap to prevent a number of similar unintended solutions
* 3N1E: A bunch of tweaks

Cursed Courtyard
* 1N: Extra checkpoint
* 1N1E: Shorter gentryii, and thinner entrance passageway. Moved trapdoors.
* 2N1W: Shrunk length of first gentryii + some landscape tweaks
05-25-2019 at 12:52 AM
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v2 demos

Craggy Course 3N : amazing puzzle !
Craggy Course 2N 2E : very easy
05-26-2019 at 12:59 AM
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Thanks KituU.

2N2E was broken but I've uploaded v3 that fixes it. Happy to see your solutions for 3N and 3N1E are intended.
05-26-2019 at 09:18 AM
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v3

Craggy Course 2N2E : very nice
Cursed Courtyard 1N 1E : the northen gentryii is not used
05-26-2019 at 07:30 PM
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Thanks again KituU. Embarrassing that Craggy Course 2N2E is broken by such a minor decorative feature. I must have made it late without thinking.

For Cursed Courtyard 1N 1E it is intended that the Northern gentryii never leaves his area. I think this made more sense back before I put a red door in front of the seep on the right, as sort of a seemingly "soft" enforcement mechanism. I guess it's got no use anymore, but I see no harm in leaving him in.

Uploaded v4 in the opening post.

v4 changelog:
* Craggy Course 2N2E - fixed unintended solution.
05-29-2019 at 10:21 PM
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Craggy Course 2N2E
05-30-2019 at 07:25 PM
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Thanks KituU, sorry for not looking and responding to your demo sooner. You got the intended solution.

With a week of no further responses, and given all rooms have been looked at and had demos posted, I have decided to submit this to the HAs.

See you all on the holds board!

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