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Mine arrived today. Markers work fine, I quickly learned to ignore the recommended notation in favor of numbering by step,
I did that a fair amount too.
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I'm escaping with plenty of life because there's clearly enough room on either side of the enemies for an expert spy to slip past without fighting.
Eh...I didn't do that...

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My physical copy arrived this morning (in the UK)! Only done the first six mazes so far, but I'm completely happy with it - the book looks and feels great, annotating with the dry-erase markers works well, and the puzzles are already kind of tricky by the second chapter. Well done!
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My physical copy arrived this morning (in the UK)! Only done the first six mazes so far, but I'm completely happy with it - the book looks and feels great, annotating with the dry-erase markers works well, and the puzzles are already kind of tricky by the second chapter. Well done!
Woo hoo! Good to hear you received your copy in the UK and I appreciate the feedback. So happy you're enjoying the experience so far! :)

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Challenge: Beat Area 2-3 with 4HP remaining.

(At least I think I did all the math right.)
Yes, you did the math right and found an unintended solution. RoboBob3000 (and whitehelm) gain the honorary distinction of being Especially Clever!

Here is an errata to puzzle 2-3 (central area) to prevent the unintended solution:
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The digital version has been updated with the fix in v1.01.

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Another UK recipient here - mine arrived on Friday.

I have a bit of damage to the ring-binding - presuming this happened in transit as the packaging was a bit beaten up, but should be able to bend back into shape with no problem.
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My copy of TLP arrived last Friday (in the Netherlands) just when I had left for a couple of days. I arrived back home late yesterday evening and the book looks fantastic! Can't wait to start on it this week.

Thanks Mike (and everyone else who helped out) for getting this out there, will definitely post back here later when I've had the chance to play through a decent amount of the puzzles.

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Just wanted to chime in to say my 2 copies have arrived today and big thank you. It's beautiful!

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Just received my copy. Wow! The quality is incredible, it looks and feels great. Despite seeing the pdf proofs during production I didnt quite realise it would come out as big, sharp and clear as it does. I think I was just looking at the pages on a lower zoom level, hah.
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Alternative win condition here, as promised.



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Martz, thank you for showing a pic of the packaging issue. Yes, this should be fixable, and please let me know if you encounter any non-fixable issues.

slimm tom, so glad you like the look! Hope you enjoy the puzzles just as much once you get into them.

enzi666, I appreciate the kind words, and you're welcome! :)

Kieran, I can completely relate to what you're saying. Seeing the book in person is glorious! (And if you try playing a puzzle in this format, I am betting you will think, "How effortless!")

Dischorran, I'm honored to witness cats liking TLP. Definitely a win!

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I am Gandalf the White.
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What a great book, it's simply a pleasure to thumb through and hold!

It was also a surprise (a pleasant one) to see my name on the backer list. I'd honestly forgotten what level I'd backed it at ;)

The boys and I have worked through the first six puzzles together (I'm tricking them into doing math). Thanks everyone who worked on this!

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My book has arrived as well, and it is everything I hoped for. I have just compleated area 3-4, and have to say it astonishes me how such a simple concept could become so tricky for me!

The math is very simple, and elegant, yet I had such a hard time figuring out the principles that would lead to victory. I so love it when the solution isn't just brute force, and trial and error, but rather figuring something out.

As a side note my six year old is mesmerized by the book, and the math behind it. He can't really do arithmetic yet, but he loves math. He can sit and stare at a page for an hour. He loves the dynamics between ATK, DEF and HP.

I also installed DROD RPG for comparrison. I love them both, but it really is a diferent flavour with the perfect information contained on a single page (or two) rather than the huge exploration element of DROD RPG.

It is also really nice with a book, that you can touch and feel, and keep in your lap, and move between rooms.

Thanks for the fantastic work, Mike (and the rest of you)! There is always the posibility that things will get too hard for me as I approach the end, but I've already got my moneys worth of excellent puzzles!

Any chance of a sequel?

Edit: I told my son that it was the same person who had made DROD RPG and TLP, and that his name was Mike. He said: "In that case I like Mike!" I also showed him a little bit of TSS, and he just wanted me to keep going. He restated how he liked Mike when I told him that Mike had done that game too.

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Edit (July 3): I have finished all areas. Below are all unintended solutions I found.

Area 4-3: HP 7
Area 4-3: HP 5, key 1
Area 4-3: HP 1, pickaxe 1
Area 4-3 (secret exit): HP 9

Area 4-5: HP 3

Area 5-2: HP 10
Area 5-2: HP 6, key 1

Area 5-4: HP 7
Area 5-4 (only use altar once): HP 3

Area 6-1: HP 1, key 1

Area 6-2: HP 8
Area 6-2 (only use altar twice): HP 4

All other areas (v1.01) probably have unique solutions in HP and keys.

I am starting to solve the metapuzzle. I will see if it also has an unintended solution.

Edit (July 4): I compared my solutions with the intended solutions (starting from page 96). Although some of my solutions finish the area with HP 1 and no keys, my routes are still different from the intended ones. I list those solutions and comparison below.

Area 3-4: finish with +1 DEF Radiant Word effect
Area 3-4 (intended): finish with no Radiant Word effect

Area 3-Secret: finish with 3 tentacles left
Area 3-Secret (intended): finish with 4 tentacles left


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The stats for Dark Zombie (area 5-4) are inconsistent with the damage table.

Possible fix: change Dark Zombie's ATK from 19 to 17.
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Some feedback:

1) In general I think it becomes quite tedious to do calculations as numbers grow bigger.

2)It is also important for me that the puzzles have some kind of "Ah, of course!" feeling to them. When solved it should feel obvious what the crucial step was, and why.

I feel this may get a bit lost when things gets more complicated. A great example for me is area 4-5, that I just compleated. There are so many elements that goes into what makes the optimal route optimal that it feels more like trial and error than having figured something out, that is obvious in hindsight.

There actually is one element that stood out as something I figured out
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, but the rest was just a bit too much. I would have prefered if the "trial and error" part (the pathmapping) had been a little more obvious. Even when trying diferent paths it isn't trivial to get a definite feel for having choosen the right one. At least not for me. I do realize that the point where a puzzle feels too hard to parse varies for diferent players, but in this case I think identifying the right pathmap is quite hard for most players.

3) There is always a bit of a strange situation when players goes into a game with diferent backgrounds. Having played DROD RPG whith aumtlichs quite a lot the thinking behind area 5-1 becomes quite trivial. Without that experience it would probably feel quite hard. I would have prefered for the mechanic to have been introduced in an earlier puzzle that would be appropriatly easy for both kinds of players, while such a late game puzzle should probably have been a bit more tricky.

I just want to end by saying that there is zero intent on my part to nag about this game that I love. If this feedback feels as if it is hurtful, and doesn't offer anything of value please let me know. That way I can avoid posting anything similar in the future :).

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