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Firstly, if someone has the power to do so, make it so that this thread shows up on the entrance room to both holds in the room search thing.

So I think the meta puzzle has something to do with the squares of puffs. I was assuming that you take their movements from one hold and enter them into the cursor controller thing in the corresponding room from the other hold. That didn't seem to do anything, though. Is there some special thing about how you enter them in, or do I need to do the opposite of each move, or what?

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05-27-2017 at 04:29 AM
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Firstly, if someone has the power to do so, make it so that this thread shows up on the entrance room to both holds in the room search thing.


Unfortunately it is not possible. You can create a thread in the other hold and link to this thread though.

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Firstly, if someone has the power to do so, make it so that this thread shows up on the entrance room to both holds in the room search thing.


Unfortunately it is not possible. You can create a thread in the other hold and link to this thread though.


Maybe you should instead make two threads that link to each other. And the puzzle is to find the third thread that is actually the hint thread.
05-27-2017 at 05:37 PM
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So I think the meta puzzle has something to do with the squares of puffs. I was assuming that you take their movements from one hold and enter them into the cursor controller thing in the corresponding room from the other hold. That didn't seem to do anything, though. Is there some special thing about how you enter them in, or do I need to do the opposite of each move, or what?

Oh, I can assure you that, while I may not have figured everything out, it's definitely more complicated than that. It's still very early in this hold's life, though, so the only more specific thing I'll say at this point is that there's a lot of information you're not using yet.
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I spilled the beans on a tiny hint in the chat, so I'll make the hint public:

Verifying if your thinking is correct in This 1N1E shouldn't take you more than 60 seconds.

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06-04-2017 at 10:08 PM
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Can whoever Skell was talking to put that in context?

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I can, but the context was that I have no idea where to start on any of these.

So I imagine that's not very helpful.
06-05-2017 at 06:29 AM
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The context is there is no context.

Maybe this is not the context you're looking for? That doesn't seem like the correct context for this either.
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If you didn't want hints it's probably not something you should be reading.

The structure:

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This 1N1E and That 1N1W directions:

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Even bigger hint:

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There is a hint for every room here:

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It may be obvious to most people, but in That 1S1E,

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Still figuring out how to decode the results of that, but I wanted people to know where the information is.

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Well, I'm normally pretty good at these sorts of puzzles, but so far I've only figured out the four north ones.

The two south 'This' puzzles are overloaded with information that could be used in so many different ways, and I'm stumped for the two puzzles in 'That' too.

(Actually, I might have This SE. Well, not 100% sure which of the two ways to do it, but I think that's probably it.)

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I'm stumped on That SW and SE as well. :(
I do have all the others figured out, though.

There's something special about solving the "hidden" puzzle in This SE that is different from all the other rooms (that I have solved so far):
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06-20-2017 at 02:59 AM
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I've only worked out (or more accurately, made educated guesses on) the hints for That 1N1W and 1N1E, but I've been too lazy to actually do the work to get messages out of them.

skell suggested I post my guesses in here, so hopefully people who are completely stumped can get a starting point (and maybe someone less lazy than me will post the answers in here).

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That's all I've got. The rest of these puzzles still stump me even after hints.
07-01-2017 at 11:29 PM
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I've tried binary and the translator always complains that it isn't a multiple of 8.

I have, however translated the two north rooms of This. Here's what the codes are.

1N1W is
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1N1E is
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07-02-2017 at 04:29 AM
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Dragon Fogel,
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I guess it's okay to contribute the solutions to This 1S1W and 1S1E now, since people are posting their guesses and solutions :)
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For completion's sake, here are the decoded messages for the rooms averagemoe posted the correct solutions for:
This 1N1W:
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This 1N1E:
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I am still completely stumped on That 1S1W and 1S1E, though. :(

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Thanks Aquator for decoding so many hints, but sadly, I am one step behind: how should one use these hints(quite cryptic, for a non english mother tongue one as me)???

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It's been a long while since this saw any activity so I'd really like to offer you some help and hints, especially if they're not direct hints but rather making clear things that are unintentionally ambiguous.

Below are spoilers hidden behind Secret tags. There are no solutions and for now I only say things that clear things up.

And I know Aquator knocked down most of the basic puzzles in a previous post.

First some general rules:
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This: NW
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This: NE
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This: SW
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This: SE
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That: NW
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That: NE
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And for these two I have a bit more hints:

That: SW
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Hint
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That: SE
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Hint
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What to do with that information?
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I think that's a good start, if anyone cares :). I'm here to answer more question.

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I can also give hints and help out for the first parts of the metapuzzle if someone else is trying to solve it.
The part I am stuck on is
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and maybe it'd be helpful if someone else can take a look at it.
01-14-2018 at 12:38 AM
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I haven't made any progress since the first set of solutions was posted. I'm staring at the southern That rooms, but the new hints aren't clarifying anything for me at all.
01-14-2018 at 03:00 AM
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I get the idea of for most of That Southeast, I'm just having some trouble with the inconsistent bits of it.

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As for That SW
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Some radical hints for all of the That 1S1E letters:

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@Aquator As for your current predicament, only very lightweight tips to get you on the right track:

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Okay, this is mostly guessing from skell's clues, but I think the full message for That SE should be:

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I gave it another try and finally solved the very last puzzle with those tips!
Unfortunately skell's prediction in one of the hold endings wasn't quite right. :P

About the That SE clues:
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About the That SE clues:
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And some spoiler free thoughts on That SE:
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Also Aquator, my most sincere congratulations! It makes me happy to know that I actually managed to create a pretty hard metapuzzle, that is not completely impossible :)

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