noma
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Am I the only one who just doesn't get this room? Okay, the engineer moves toward the corresponding orb when I am one step above or below the corresponding gate. I can use that to get some distance, kill a queen in either an upper or lower section, and then, using the time thingy, I can toggle the gates to escape into the central section. But that's it. I just can't seem to see the pattern in how the time thingy affects the gates and keep getting trapped. What am I missing?

Nuntar
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It's helpful to be clear about exactly what the temporal resonator does. I don't fully understand the metaphysics behind it, but in gameplay terms, in the area covered by the resonator there are two co-existing worlds that you can flip between.

The key to this room is to make sure that any time the engineer closes a gate trapping you in one world, it's open in the other

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noma
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I had kinda figured that out but was having trouble with the central gate mostly. Your confirmation was enough to get me past it. Thanks. UU was really helpful for double checking.

Rinaldo
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Nuntar wrote:
It's helpful to be clear about exactly what the temporal resonator does. I don't fully understand the metaphysics behind it, but in gameplay terms, in the area covered by the resonator there are two co-existing worlds that you can flip between.

I've made it through this room (momentarily stuck on the next one), but it's precisely the metaphysics that I'm still not clear on -- or maybe I mean the mechanics. I've had no real problems with the other temporal elements of the game, and I fumbled my way through all the previous rooms using the resonator, but I'd like to know what's really supposed to be happening. One of the two worlds is the one that would be happening if nobody messed around with it, but what is the other? It's not exactly an earlier time, is it? Is it something I can precisely calculate and predict?

xpym
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Rinaldo wrote:
but I'd like to know what's really supposed to be happening. One of the two worlds is the one that would be happening if nobody messed around with it, but what is the other? It's not exactly an earlier time, is it?

I don't think there's a flawlessly consistent™ explanation for this. I suppose the failed experiment caused the world to split somehow, and we're alternating between whatever resulted, while transporting/teleporting everyone within the area of effect.

Rinaldo wrote: Is it something I can precisely calculate and predict?

Well, since it changes the layout of the room and not behaviour and interactions of elements within, taking into account said change you can predict those as precisely as it gets in DROD.

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junglejane
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It doesn't seem to matter what world I am in. When he says
'gotcha' I am un able to get out of the area. I have found
no way to kill a queen without being trapped. I am very
unhappy that I have this problem, because I see no rational
solution.

The power of posting!! I have successfully killed a queen and
now I get a 'NOOOO', but can leave the area. I think I am on my way to solving it myself.

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(They taught me all I knew);
Their names are What and Why and When
And How and Where and Who..... Rudyard Kipling

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bwross
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This room is less about which alternate reality you're in...

junglejane
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bwross wrote:
This room is less about which alternate reality you're in...

Click here to view the secret text

×and more about switching to the other to protect the open doors.

Could I have a demo please. If I am unable to understand this room, I believe I may have
to find another game to enjoy. I am unable to see any indication as to when I should switch.
The best I can do is killing two queens without being trapped, but I am unable to escape in
time to the center.

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I keep six honest serving-men
(They taught me all I knew);
Their names are What and Why and When
And How and Where and Who..... Rudyard Kipling

Aquator
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File: TSS Rematch with A1 2N1W Victory.demo (13.1 KB)
Downloaded 57 times.
License: Public Domain

Here you go.

adS
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File: xxx.demo (7.3 KB)
Downloaded 47 times.
License: Public Domain

Here we go...

Best wishes,

adS


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tarzanlt
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adS wrote:
Here we go...

Best wishes,

adS

Thanks you. With your help, I am getting a better understanding
of the switching worlds. Far from being a pro at it. I have a
mod point that I plan to give to you when I get my membership
cleared up.

bwross
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I thought you had caught on to that before my post, otherwise I would have been more explicit, and mention that it means that