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Fegundo and Wraithwing NPCs can fly over doors, but Fegundo and Wraithwing players cannot.

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Not sure how we want to change this.

Would it be okay to allow flying player roles to fly over doors now?

Or, are you saying flying NPCs should not be allowed to fly over doors?

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Personally I'd go with flying player NPCs not being able to fly over doors. It doesn't seem all that useful anyway, and is inconsistent with regular DROd (not that that is always a concern for RPG).

Perhaps a more convincing argument is that it seems to me to be incredibly difficult to construct anything good in RPG gameplay out of a player role that can traverse every single door free of charge, in addition to all floor and water and pits.

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I tend to agree. Hmm...so, are we wanting NPCs to not be allowed to fly over doors either?

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For the benefit of flawless consistency, I'd go with making the NPCs the same as the player role and stop them from flying over doors.

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kieranmillar wrote:
For the benefit of flawless consistency, I'd go with making the NPCs the same as the player role and stop them from flying over doors.

Okay, I'm fine with this. Will this break any published holds?

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I am confident in saying that there are no moving flying monsters in any published holds.

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kieranmillar wrote:
I am confident in saying that there are no moving flying monsters in any published holds.

All right then! Making this change in rev 94.

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Can confirm as fixed in 1.2.3.98. Moving wraithwing and fegundo monsters will not move over doors, but will move over all other expected terrain.