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EDIT: 679 was already picked, but didn't see it...

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skell wrote:
You must be fun at parties.
Yeah, I don't teach math at my parties. :P
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But jokes aside I understood around 80% of that, I think half of the semester on university helped. I just feel bad for people who know all that stuff, you can no longer appreciate the simplicity of ignorance :P.
Oddly enough, most mathematicians I know of have some pretty insanely ignorant (and extreme) beliefs when it comes to politics, sociology, economics, etc. I would guess it's because (for some) they try to apply mathematical logic to the outside world and fail to realize how much psychology plays a role in the heuristics we rely upon for verification of information.

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W41T 1 CH4NG3D MY M1ND. TH3R3 MUST B3 413 ROOMS 4S TH3 PROPH3TS H4V3 D3CL4R3D.

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I wholly approve of this post.

Also, my guess is 660

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Who says I was telling the truth though?

The lady doth protest too much, methinks


Jacob, boards like these are reputation based, and your reputation is of a fine, upstanding citizen who always helps
fellow delvers in a pinch.

So, I just don't buy it that you suddenly went all rogueish, and dissembled about the size of the new hold, I'm going with the theory that it slipped out, and you're trying to cover your tracks. My (large) bet stands.

I think it's going to turn out that there are a large number of non-puzzle rooms in TSS, ones that count towards rooms count, but not to the marketing schtick of "over 500 puzzle rooms".

I mean, can you imagine the size of the post-mastery level? There's well over a decade of random scribbles by the dev team to incorporate into the Dreamplane/Undercity equivalent.

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Tereziiiiiiii

Stop em8arassing us like that :::: (

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Since this information doesn't seem to be available, I'll post it here; I've just counted all the rooms in the official holds (puzzle and non-puzzle) to give some idea of what has come before - I've also included the number of rooms in the post-mastery levels in case you want to take that into account in your guess (also take into account I may have mis-counted...):

King Dugan's Dungeon 2.0 - 408 rooms, 301 scorable (including 40 in the final level which isn't in the original version of KDD)
Journey to Rooted Hold - 474 rooms, 326 scorable (including 72 in the post-mastery level)
The City Beneath - 529 rooms, 273 scorable (including 53 in the post-mastery level)
Gunthro and the Epic Blunder - 424 rooms, 265 scorable (including 22 in post-mastery level)

My guess would be: 871 rooms

NB. So, actually the information above has already been posted...still, no harm in repeating it...

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Five. There are five rooms. It's just they disguise themselves really well and move around when you're not looking.
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You're cutting out TripleM there!

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-6 Rooms ;)

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Whoa....

Well, then. TripleM might edge you out.

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My guess is the average of all answers which are natural numbers (and are not calculation), rounded down...

...at least it would be, if I could participate.

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I think about 820.

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1028.

It seems to feel like a good guess, at least.
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∀x1∈N => 1xN

Should cover everything (naturally)
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Syntax wrote:
∀x1∈N => 1xN

Should cover everything (naturally)
I'm not sure. I think (?) you meant to write something inductive like:

∀x x∈ℕ ⇒ x+1∈ℕ (?)

...but you (probably) actually meant something simpler like:

∃x x∈ℕ ∧ P(x)

...where P(x) means "x is the correct number of rooms in TSS". (You don't need to use induction to generate ℕ, because ℕ must already have been defined for you to refer to it as the domain of discourse.)

∃x x∈ℕ ∧ P(x) should be true as long as both: P(x) is formalized in first-order predicate calculus, and P(x) is true for some finite x.

however I still hold out hope that there are uncountably many rooms

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however I still hold out hope that there are uncountably many rooms
Given a finite limit on room tile size (confirmed) and the number of possible room elements (likely) it would seem we can formulate a conservative upper bound for P(x).

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I disagree. There are infinitely many characters that can be made, and an arbitrarily large number can be in one room at the same time (generate entity...). Thus, when scripts are allowed, there are at least an infinite number of possible rooms.

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