Doom
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See the CaravelNet high scores if you want to see up to date KDD demos.
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I'm updating full level records until JtRH is released.
For instructions on how to record a full level demo see this thread

If you have a demo with less moves for any of the levels you can submit it here

You can count demo information with levelthirteens program. Here

Current records:

Level 1 - Rabscuttle - Time: 4:46 Moves: 1644 Rooms: 25 / 16
Level 2 - Rabscuttle - Time: 15:32 Moves: 3042 Rooms: 25 / 17
Level 3 - Rabscuttle - Time: 11:36 Moves: 2858 Rooms: 35/20
Level 4 - rowrow - Time: 10:32 Moves: 2200 Rooms: 19 / 12
Level 5 - Rabscuttle - Time: 32:26 Moves: 4162 Rooms: 43 / 22
Level 6 - rowrow - Time: 14:21 Moves: 3430 Rooms: 20 / 11
Level 7 - Rabscuttle - Time: 12:39 Moves: 2773 Rooms: 28 / 16
Level 8 - DiMono - Time: 20:41 Moves: 4667 Rooms: 27 / 18
Level 9 - Rabscuttle - Time: 18:04 Moves: 2503 Rooms: 13 / 11
Level 10 - Rabscuttle - Time: 7:11 Moves: 1491 Rooms: 14 / 11
Level 11 - Rabscuttle - Time: 10:16 Moves: 2036 Rooms: 22 / 11
Level 12 - Rabscuttle - Time: 13:15 Moves: 4892 Rooms: 17 / 11
Level 13 - Doom - Time: 4:48 Moves: 1432 Rooms: 35 / 18
Level 14 - Rabscuttle - Time: 10:55 Moves: 2074 Rooms: 22 / 13
Level 15 - Mikko - Time: 17:37 Moves: 3724 Rooms: 16/11
Level 16 - Rabscuttle - Time: 8:52 Moves: 2388 Rooms: 16 / 11
Level 17 - Rabscuttle - Time: 13:39 Moves: 2951 Rooms: 23 / 12
Level 18 - Rabscuttle - Time: 9:54 Moves: 1309 Rooms: 13 / 11
Level 19 - Rabscuttle - Time: 9:46 Moves: 2577 Rooms: 21 / 12
Level 20 - Kevin - Time: 17:00 Moves: 3262 Rooms: 23 / 12
Level 21 - Rabscuttle - Time: 27:10 Moves: 4317 Rooms: 19 / 11
Level 22 - Rabscuttle - Time: 30:52 Moves: 3525 Rooms: 21 / 12
Level 23 - Rabscuttle - Time: 9:28 Moves: 2277 Rooms: 18 / 12
Level 24 - Kevin - Time: 15:54 Moves: 4856 Rooms: 25 / 13
Level 25 - Rabscuttle - Time: 10:50 Moves: 2815 Rooms: 12 / 12
Level 25 - Rabscuttle - Time: 10:25 Moves: 2574 Rooms: 12 / 12 (Leaves monsters alive)

Total moves : 73205
Total time of all demos: 5 hours, 56 minute and 35 seconds!
(Total moves & time use the complete version of Level 25)

People with records:

Rabscuttle - 18
rowrow - 2
Kevin - 2
Mikko - 1
DiMono - 1
Doom - 1

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[Last edited by Doom at 02-07-2006 09:57 AM : one silly mistake]

Doom
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File: KDD Second Level DOOM.demo (6.2 KB)
Downloaded 142 times.
License: Other
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So I'm the first to make a demo update.

KDD Level 2

Levelthirteens stats :
Time - 23:43
Moves - 5193
Rooms - 49/17

My stats :
Time - 7:56
moves - 3708
Rooms - 25/17

[Edited by Doom on 08-29-2004 at 06:11 PM GMT]

KevG
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KDD Level 1
Old Stats:
Time - 3:51
Moves - 1970
Rooms - 25/16

My Stats:
Time - 5:24
Moves - 1749
Rooms - 25/16

Should point out that this demo isn't particularly optimized yet. I'll work up a better one tomorrow if nobody beats me to it.

Doom
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KevG wrote:
Should point out that this demo isn't particularly optimized yet. I'll work up a better one tomorrow if nobody beats me to it.

Sure, it wasn't

KDD level 1

KevG's stats:
Time - 5:24
Moves - 1749
Rooms - 25/16

My stats:
Time - 3:57
Moves - 1717
Rooms - 25/16

[Edited by Doom at Local Time:12-04-2004 at 09:53 AM]

DiMono
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File: KDD Thirteenth Level Victory.demo (4.3 KB)
Downloaded 131 times.
License: Other
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And level 13 has been suped up. Attached is my demo:

Time: 4:39
Moves: 1463
Rooms: 35/18

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DiMono
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File: KDD First Level Victory.demo (3.8 KB)
Downloaded 122 times.
License: Other
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And now Level 1, including me bumping in to walls, having to backtrack, and hitting some orbs too many times.

Time: 3:15
Moves: 1915
Rooms: 27/16

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Doom
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File: KDD First Level Doom.demo (3.7 KB)
Downloaded 131 times.
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Update on Level 1

My old stats :
Time - 3:57
Moves - 1717
Rooms - 25/16

My new stats :
Time - 4:06
Moves - 1687
Rooms - 25/16

[Edited by Doom at Local Time:12-04-2004 at 09:53 AM]

DiMono
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Except are we counting low moves, or low time?

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Doom
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Move count is that matters. I think that's what someone said in that old topic.

DiMono
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I just read the other thread, one person said it should be moves, then tiercel made a very good argument in favour of time: I disagree with the previous argument that less moves is better than lower clock time. I would bet few people would be interested in viewing an hour long demo of someone making the theoretically least possible moves, although I'm sure there are at least a couple people who would appreciate it.

I've always been going on the assumption that time is what mattered, which is why I posted my level 1 demo as an improvement.

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Doom
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I see... In that case there should be propably own records for fastest demos and least move demos. But if someone makes a demo with theoretically least possible moves, he can easily do it again surely a lot faster.

Schik
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But time is dependent on computer speed, among other things. Also, any delays between moves of greater than 2 seconds gets truncated to 2 seconds.

Number of moves at least puts everyone on a level playing field, and... well, it's DROD - a turn based puzzle game, not Quake. IMHO, move count is more impressive than time. You could fairly easily cheat on time anyways, by either making all the delays in the demo zero, or by using a macro recorder to play back your run through the level at top speed.


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DiMono
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File: KDD Ninth Level Victory.demo (7.2 KB)
Downloaded 138 times.
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Well, I just improved significantly on my own level 9 demo.

Time: 15:41
Moves: 4301
Rooms: 23/11

(yes, I messed up a couple times. Good thing it's a level where you can't die )

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DiMono
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Let's run one for each. Make this a thread for low time, and have another thread for low moves.

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DiMono
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File: KDD Fourth Level Victory.demo (4.9 KB)
Downloaded 131 times.
License: Other
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Level 4 improvement

Time: 8:17
Moves: 2512
Rooms: 19/12

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DiMono
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File: KDD Eighth Level Victory.demo (8.9 KB)
Downloaded 217 times.
License: Other
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Holy freakin' crap, I feel StuartK's pain. It took me 17 attempts to get level 8 done.

Time: 20:41
Moves: 4667
Rooms: 27/18

Edit: As a sidenote, I am really looking forward to being able to delete multiple demos at a time...

[Edited by DiMono on 09-03-2004 at 04:06 PM GMT]

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File: KDD Tenth Level Victory 2.demo (4.3 KB)
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Level 10 is vanquished mightily

Time: 8:44
Moves: 2202
Rooms: 16/11

Edit: The time has been improved. Here's my second crack at it today (and I'll leave it with this one):

Time: 7:36
Moves: 1940
Rooms: 14/11

[Edited by DiMono on 09-03-2004 at 07:10 PM GMT]

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DiMono
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File: KDD Twelfth Level Victory.demo (5.7 KB)
Downloaded 132 times.
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Alright, I got level 12 (after 19 attempts) for a noticable improvement over the previous benchmark. One thing I'll give level 12, since all the solutions are formulaic it really only comes down to human error when you're doing something like this. Made it very easy to repeat the rooms... I could do 1E and 1N1E blindfolded if I needed to now, I think. Anyway, my numbers:

Time: 11:35
Moves: 5827
Rooms: 17/11

Edit: As a side note, the last twelve hours have taught me that it's a bad idea to take on challenges like this without sleeping the night before... and the pinky finger on my right hand is just about non-functioning. Serves me right, I guess.

On the bright side though, I have the low totals for levels 4, 8, 9, 10, 12 and 13, and low time on level 1, so I guess in some twisted way it was worth it... if only my hands can recover.

[Edited by DiMono on 09-03-2004 at 09:23 PM GMT]

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Kevin
Level: Master Delver
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File: KDD First Level 1654 moves.demo (3.7 KB)
Downloaded 138 times.
License: Other
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Here's an improvement for level 1.

Time: 4:05
Moves: 1654
Rooms: 25/16

DiMono
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File: KDD First Level 1653.demo (3.7 KB)
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Here's another improvement for level 1

Time: 3:30
Moves: 1653
Rooms: 25/16

I saved a move in Sence North, Once West. And the funny thing is my room solutions are not all just carbon copies of the previous demo. I also learned that it only costs you two moves in Quince North Twice West to start at the bottom orb... I start from the top in the demo

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Kevin
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File: KDD First Level 1651.demo (3.7 KB)
Downloaded 159 times.
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Here's yet another improvement for level 1.

Time: 4:22
Moves: 1651
Rooms: 25/16

DiMono
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Ya know, we've sort of beat the first level in to the dirt. I have almost forty demos of the first room right now. We should pick another one to badger. I say... level 20.

...you go first.

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Mikko
Level: Master Delver
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File: KDD Fifteenth Level Mikko.demo (7 KB)
Downloaded 239 times.
License: Other
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I can't get the democount program to work (maybe because I'm using Windows 98?), but I made a manual estimate and am sure that this is a big improvement on level 15. I wasted a lot of moves in the second last room, so there is still plenty of room for improvement.

KevG
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I used the demo count program on Mikko's demo

Mikko's Level 15
Time: 17:37
Moves: 3724
Rooms: 16/11

Doom is away at camp until next Saturday. I assume this means there won't be updates in the master list until then.

DiMono
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What I noticed a while ago about these demos, and what I'm sure many others have noticed as well, is how important it is to plan your route. The biggest difference between my original level 9 demo and my current one is that the first time I had something like 27 rooms visited of a much smaller number. This time I made a point of looking at the level, deciding the best order to conquer the rooms, and then doing it. After all, it costs between 15 and 38 moves each time you have to go back through a room.

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Mikko
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File: KDD Ninth Level Mikko 1.demo (6.1 KB)
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Here's level 9 in 3828 moves.

BTW, the list at the start of the thread has the old record as 3201 moves when it should have been 4301.

KevG
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File: KDD Third Level WholeLevel 1.demo (6.4 KB)
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Here's Level 3. No major mistakes I'm aware of, but a heck of a lot of minor ones.

KevG's Level 3
Time: 11:36
Moves: 3504
Rooms: 35/20

Mikko
Level: Master Delver
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File: KDD Eighteenth Level Mikko.demo (5.2 KB)
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License: Other
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Here's level 18 in 2519 moves.

Kevin
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File: KDD Twentieth Level 3262 moves.demo (6.6 KB)
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License: Other
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Here's level 20.

Time: 13:02
Moves: 3262
Rooms: 23/12

rowrow
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How do you export whole level demos? I did a demo for level 3 the right way (f5) and after I finished, I wnt to f6 and it only had individual demos

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