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The point of this contest is to build an entry with many unique and clever solutions. Each entry should be a single room with multiple solutions, most likely of varying efficiency and complexity.

The basic rules are as follows:
1) Each entry, of which a contestant can have up to three, must be a single, conquerable(as in exitable) room with a staircase to end the hold.
2) Elements that are used differently in every solution are highly encouraged, but if they are used in one solution and not another, there is no penalty.
3) It is also encouraged to use the "viewable from title screen" option on demos of some of the more clever and obscure solutions so that more people can know that they exist, they will be included with the compilation hold.

The deadlines:
Submissions will be open in this topic after June 24. This is a soft deadline, post your entries earlier if you have to.

Submissions will no longer be accepted after July 7th. To be clear you have negative 323 weeks, 3 days to submit your entries.

Sometime after submissions will close, I will open a voting topic with the entries compiled into one hold. I'll get there when that happens.

Prizes of some sort:
I'm a bit poor on mod points at the moment, hopefully I will be able to deliver on these prizes.
To the first place entry, I will award around 5 rank points, 3 for second place and 2 for third. Prizes are subject to change.

Caravel has nationalized this contest, and we're providing the standard full contest prizes! Winner gets a prize from the Prize Pile and 100 rank points. 2nd and 3rd places get 50 and 25 rank points, respectively. Once you've participated in eight contests, you may claim a free prize from the Prize Pile. So even if you don't win, you're still on your way to getting something good.

I know that this is rather unclear, so I've attached a sample hold that should similar to rooms for this contest. It also has two demos which are viewable from the title screen.

If anyone has anymore questions (because I'm terrible at explaining things, or for any other reason) feel free to ask.

Edit: I've extended the deadline for the contest to July 7th so people receiving the newsletter have a bit more time to submit something.

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06-16-2013 at 09:26 PM
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I like the idea but I have some questions :)

1) For conquerable room you mean exiting the level or killing all monsters and exiting the level? I mean can I use a solution where you can exit without killing all monsters?

2) Do I have to make a demo for every type of solution (3 or 4 are enough?) and make it visible on the title screen?

3) When it's ready, should I post the entry here as an attachment?

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06-16-2013 at 11:01 PM
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1) For conquerable room you mean exiting the level or killing all monsters and exiting the level? I mean can I use a solution where you can exit without killing all monsters?

2) Do I have to make a demo for every type of solution (3 or 4 are enough?) and make it visible on the title screen?

3) When it's ready, should I post the entry here as an attachment?


1) I mean conquerable as in exitable. I had imagined that it would involve killing all the monsters but I see no reason why it has to. I think non-killing solutions would be neat actually.

2) I mostly pictured the demo option as something you would do if there were a really clever solution that you didn't expect anyone to find. There is no reason to make a demo for every solution you can find, since there will probably be solutions that even the original architect didn't find.

3) I would wait a couple days to post it, but at the moment, this topic is where I would post any entries.

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06-16-2013 at 11:12 PM
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Fun contest idea! I've been looking for the next official contest. Anyone mind if Caravel gives out the usual official prizes to the winners of this contest?

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06-17-2013 at 01:01 PM
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I see no reason to mind. (In the back of my mind I was sort of hoping this would happen).

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It might be interesting to set this up challenge mode style, where the submission needs to be accompanied by a couple of arbitrary rules, like "Don't use X" or "Never take the lower path" or "Don't use this obvious solution," where any unique challenge must be (this is somewhat arbitrary) decidedly different as opposed to close-solutions. It might be comical to see how many of these decidedly different solutions a given architect can supply for a single room, while making most or all of them interesting.

Also, if it's alright, I'd like to supply a guaranteed Pearls Prize in addition to what Caravel supplies. I do this more for me, than for you. Gives me a reason to practice my piano chops.

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06-17-2013 at 04:13 PM
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In a way I had been hoping that anyone judging would be able to do that on their own, but on second thought, it would make it much easier for everyone if architects did something like including a scroll listing possible challenges/ways to solve the room.

When I made the sample room it ended up as more of an accumulation of little tricks that could be used to conserve resources. I think the challenge method would still be compatible with that room and others like it. It is the easiest way to enforce very different solutions while still leaving room for some subjectivity. I still don't think it is necessary if an architect expects players to be able to figure out challenges on their own, but adding a scroll like that is probably a good idea.

On another note, would it be possible to have a submission topic for this contest?

Edit: also, Pearls, feel free to give out your prize. It might be interesting for you to do the LP part of the prize and attempt every challenge included with the hold. That could take a while of course.

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:tumbleweed:

I'm almost done with an entry. Anyone else in? Are we posting them here or is there a submission topic coming?
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On another note, would it be possible to have a submission topic for this contest?

06-26-2013 at 07:25 PM
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I've posted a submission topic. Perhaps I should have been more annoying about asking.

To liven up the forums, if you're planning on entering post here.

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I'm in as well and I'm almost done :) I was just waiting for the submission topic to be open.

EDIT: I just read that we must not write our name. What about the level/hold description? I wrote some comments in there without saying my name, should I change it or leave as it is?

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I'll prepare an Illumination tonight to mention this contest.

Oh! And also the sweeeeeet DROD bundle that's now available, for a limited time only!

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Okay, I've submitted an entry. If I had more time at the moment, I might come up with something better, but at least I've managed to come up with anything. Looking forward to playing the other entries! (I'll hopefully have more time then) :)
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I've extended the deadline for contest submissions until July 7th (hope that's okay) so people receiving the newsletter will have more opportunity to participate.

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Yahoo! Now I can procrastinate a whole week more!

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Ah! Now there's a man who knows how to hurry up and wait!

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MY FIRST CONTEST! (hopefully). IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL! :~(

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We're happy to have you! :yes

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And submissions have closed. At the moment we have five entries, which is great turnout given that this is a rather difficult contest to build rooms for.

I'll get a compilation set up within a day or so and then set up voting. How much time do people want to vote? I'm thinking around two weeks, but I'm not sure.

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Not bad! Thanks again for running this, blorx1. Two weeks sounds good to me.

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I've added a topic to architecture for the compilation hold. If you are an architect of one of the entries, I'd appreciate it if you posted there, giving your permission for me to use the entry in a compilation and making any changes you'd like to make to the entry.

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