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Guess the meaning of made-up words. Mine:
Cucumbersome
Frankering
monkiness


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1. a difficult or awkward situation involving a pickle.
2. tossing hot dogs at a wedding instead of rice.
3. a loch monster who takes to the trees.

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1. Correct.
2. Not even close.
3. Also not even close.

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They're made up words. They don't mean anything.
04-29-2011 at 12:59 AM
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See, that's not entirely correct. They don't mean anything to you, they don't mean anything to me, but they might mean something to someone else. A word doesn't have to be in the dictionary to have meaning. Your point, however, is entirely accurate.
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3. the quality of being like a monkey, not to be confused with monkness, which is that of being like a monk

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What?? They don't mean anything?! They could mean anything or everything! They mean whatever the creator of the word wants. Like "orc" or "lightsaber" or "agnostic" (yes, that was made up on the spot). I thought you would have grokked this by now.

And Jatopian is correct 100% all the way down to the monkness.

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Actually, what the inventor thinks doesn't mean anything at all. It's all what people use it for. Unless you're the French, who have a committee for their language.
04-29-2011 at 07:00 AM
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What?? They don't mean anything?! They could mean anything or everything! They mean whatever the creator of the word wants. Like "orc" or "lightsaber" or "agnostic" (yes, that was made up on the spot). I thought you would have grokked this by now.
Yes, yes, I'm actually fully aware that, first of all, every word has to have been made up at some point*, and second of all, that many such words are entirely cromulent. (In other words: "Back off, man, I'm a scientist.")

I was just obliquely questioning the idea of "guess what I'm thinking of" being any fun. Also, "monkiness" is incorrect, if it pertains to monkeys; the proper noun form would be "monkeyness". (You can't deny the inherent humanness of people as opposed to the inherent monkeyness of marmosets.) "Monkiness" is the property of being monky, and monky means "resembling a monk", so "monkiness" is "the state of being like a monk". ("I wanted to like the class I took from Brother Francis, but in the end his monkiness got in the way of his open-mindedness during discussions.") You're welcome to make up words, but the rules of English morphology are still the rules of English morphology.

*This is only true of English. French words are not made up; they're uncovered in word mines near Lyons and shipped to factories in Paris, where they undergo rigorous testing for authenticity. Words that don't meet the standards of the Academie Franšaise are exported to Belgium.


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[...]they don't mean anything to me, but they might mean something to someone else[...]


Am I the only one who noticed this?

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[...]they don't mean anything to me, but they might mean something to someone else[...]


Am I the only one who noticed this?


Ha, that is pretty funny.

Words convey ideas and meaning only if they are understood. That understanding comes in several ways: context, a dictionary (or being told the meaning), or the inherent form of the word being similar to a word you're already familiar with.

If a word, by itself, "means" several things to several different people, then it has no meaning and little value. Your made-up words might have value in a certain type of story, but by themselves they don't.

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Also, "monkiness" is incorrect, if it pertains to monkeys; the proper noun form would be "monkeyness". (You can't deny the inherent humanness of people as opposed to the inherent monkeyness of marmosets.) "Monkiness" is the property of being monky, and monky means "resembling a monk", so "monkiness" is "the state of being like a monk". ("I wanted to like the class I took from Brother Francis, but in the end his monkiness got in the way of his open-mindedness during discussions.") You're welcome to make up words, but the rules of English morphology are still the rules of English morphology.
While I agree with you, I felt like that was a bit much to slam on a kid playing a game, so I just made a guess at what he was probably thinking. D: oh well~

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While I agree with you, I felt like that was a bit much to slam on a kid playing a game...
You're never to young to learn linguistics! A foundation in the morphology of English is the foundation for a better life. No, really.
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While I agree with you, I felt like that was a bit much to slam on a kid playing a game...
You're never to young to learn linguistics! A foundation in the morphology of English is the foundation for a better life. No, really.
True, but sometimes just monkiing around is fun. I should know.

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You're never too young to learn linguistics! A foundation in the morphology of English is the foundation for a better life. No, really.
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This thread had all the appeal of a newt, but then it got better.

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I think you're missing my point. A made-up word means exactly what it is used for. What defines the meaning of a word? Its usage! Not a dictionary, not scientist, the people who use the word. While this doesn't really apply to a word that some dumb kid thought up on the spot, it is much easier to say "Guess the meaning!" than "Guess what Rat Man is using these made-up words to mean!"

And as for this game not being any fun, I often make game threads that would be fun for me. I would find this fun if someone else did it and did not realize that others would not agree.

And what's the big idea?! Everywhere I go, my threads and the threads I post on turn into an argument about something entirely unrelated. I think I'm cursed!*

*I don't actually believe that and do not want to get into an argument over whether or not there's such a thing as a curse.

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And as for this game not being any fun, I often make game threads that would be fun for me. I would find this fun if someone else did it and did not realize that others would not agree.

And what's the big idea?! Everywhere I go, my threads and the threads I post on turn into an argument about something entirely unrelated. I think I'm cursed!*

*I don't actually believe that and do not want to get into an argument over whether or not there's such a thing as a curse.
His words ring true. Lighten up, everybody. Sheesh.

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A better way to play this game would be to make up words and then use them in a sentence or paragraph, so that it wasn't just blind guessing.

And check them in a dictionary first.

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Great idea, NiroZ!

For the one I have left, "So, what should we have for lunch today?" "I've got a real frankering" "Sounds good to me!"

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A hankering for a hot dog/frankfurter?
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Yup! :D What're yours?

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My favorite personal coinage is "tumbrella", which is an umbrella left on the T (Boston's subway system) by some previous passenger who'll never come back for it, making it yours, until of course you yourself take it on the T and forget it, thus continuing the eternal life cycle of the tumbrella.

No one else will ever use it, but I like it.

You are, I suppose, welcome to try to guess what it means when my friends and I say "Look, a yak!".
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You are, I suppose, welcome to try to guess what it means when my friends and I say "Look, a yak!".


You were visiting Tibet and saw a funny, long-haired animal??


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I'll use "tumbrella" if I ever live on Boston, where it would be relevant!

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How do you call an umbrella which was left in a clothes shop, hanging among belts? Fabbrela?

For curious souls, it was left in a shop which was not selling this kind, nor even similar umbrellas. I later found they were sold by a completely different shop.

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